Re: TAN: Newark, NJ, aka "The Beauty And The > Beast". 2 of 2
Peter D. Ehrlich
Tuesday, September 4, 2001 5:09 PM
In a message dated 4 Sept 2001 @ 1228 GMT, "Herman R. Silbiger"
<[email protected]> wrote:
I can. There was apparently an inadequate testing program. (All of it was
done at night and on weekends, after the PCCs had quit for the night.) When
I asked if the Newark City Subway operators had done some training with the
new cars on Hudson-Bergen, he replied "No, but we should have." That would
have given them more hands-on experience.
To my knowledge, there was never any "simulated service" program on Newark
City Subway like we had with Muni Metro back in 1980 before the subway
opened. They should have even tried a weekend or two of regular revenue
service to experience what carrying people and the associated issues with
the doors, etc., would be like. Now they are having to do damage control.
The new printed schedule called for 7-minute midday service and 13-minute
running time, up a minute from PCC schedules. I think NCS can pretty well
kiss that good-bye.
To bring this back into focus for this group, will the Melbourne Citadis
trams have a rigorous testing program, or are they going to put 'em in
service in one swell foop?
Milantram
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<[email protected]> wrote:
Peter,
I don't quite understand why NJT is having these problems with the Kinki
Sharyo cars. The ones running on the Hudson
Bergen line are performing very satisfactorily. Ridership, although off to a
poor start is now exceeding expectations.
The problem of reduced frequency has occurred everywhere that larger capacity
equipment has been introduced. The reason
for introducing large capacity equipment is to reduce operating cost, a large
part of which is personnel cost. Poorer service is
an unfortunate concomitant.
Herman
I can. There was apparently an inadequate testing program. (All of it was
done at night and on weekends, after the PCCs had quit for the night.) When
I asked if the Newark City Subway operators had done some training with the
new cars on Hudson-Bergen, he replied "No, but we should have." That would
have given them more hands-on experience.
To my knowledge, there was never any "simulated service" program on Newark
City Subway like we had with Muni Metro back in 1980 before the subway
opened. They should have even tried a weekend or two of regular revenue
service to experience what carrying people and the associated issues with
the doors, etc., would be like. Now they are having to do damage control.
The new printed schedule called for 7-minute midday service and 13-minute
running time, up a minute from PCC schedules. I think NCS can pretty well
kiss that good-bye.
To bring this back into focus for this group, will the Melbourne Citadis
trams have a rigorous testing program, or are they going to put 'em in
service in one swell foop?
Milantram
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