Re: Museum tram operation was Pantographs__&&__Interior__Lighting - Museum trams

--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., David Langley <del@a...> wrote:

Hey, who owns the track? We do - the public, it is only leased to

the

operators. If need be they can be told to operate these museum cars

by a

higher authority. Besides it wouldn't be very difficult to licence
private owners to drive their own trams, all they need is to go

through

the driver's course. Yes I know sounds easier than it is but it is

not

impossible.

David.

southernhealth2001 wrote:

Two city circle Ws have been prepared for pantos to be fitted.

They

are sitting in Camberwell depot still according to last reports.
I'll go past later on today if I have time to have a look to

see if

they are still there.

The Box Hill extension will be pantos only, as is everything

beyond

and including Kew depot.

Johann

Once the remaining W class trams are fitted with pantographs,
presumably the overhead will be progressively adapted by the

removal

of frogs etc.

This raises the issue of whether any allowance will be made for

the

on-going operation of museum/historic trams with trolley poles.

Already there are several sections of routes where trolley pole

cars

can no longer operate ie

Route 96 beyond the Exhibition crossover going to East Brunswick
Route 96 beyond Port Junction going to St Kilda
Route 109 beyond Brunswick Street
Route 109 beyong Montague
Route 48 due to the upgrading of the overhead around Kew depot
Routes 11/112 due to the changes at the Brunswick Street

interchange

Route 75 due to the Camberwell junction upgrade
Route 86 at the Bundoora end

Given that, from the private operators' point of view, musuem tram
operation is likely to be regarded as a nuisance, it appears to me
that there is a real prospect that eventually the operation of

museum

cars (with the possible exception of pantograph cars) will just
become too hard.

Does anyone have knowledge of whether there are any plans to

retain

trolley pole compatable routes?

Brian Weedon

david,i believe the govt through the dept of infastructure told

yarra trams not to put pantographs or bow collectors on the w's.jeff

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