Re: Re: Melbourne cable map?
Donald Galt
Friday, November 22, 2002 5:30 AM
On 21 Nov 2002 at 21:13, Mal Rowe wrote:
A splendid map. The first one I've seen showing the lines of all the various
tramway undertakings.
Jack Edwards sent me privately something similar: a photo of a wall map showing
cable and electric lines in 1923, with planned changes indicated along with
ambitious plans for future expansion. I'm hoping he'll be able to post it to
the group as well.
Are you sure? My remark may have been too vague, but it was inspired by the
following from page 49 of MIND THE CURVE (the reference is itself direct
quote):
"The position of the cable relative to the centre line of the slot . . .
prevented the through-routeing of Bourke Street, Collins Street and Flinders
Street trams [via Spencer Street] . . . ."
As an example of the sort of map I was asking about, attached is a low-quality
scan of part of one of my own city (!) that appears on page 390 of Hilton's
CABLE CAR IN AMERICA. The gold standard in cable car maps, I'd say, indicating
the routes of the cables themselves as well as turntables and superior- and
inferior cables at crossings.
Don
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See attached for the 1919 situation - when the M&MTB
took over and began planning to convert to electric.
A splendid map. The first one I've seen showing the lines of all the various
tramway undertakings.
Jack Edwards sent me privately something similar: a photo of a wall map showing
cable and electric lines in 1923, with planned changes indicated along with
ambitious plans for future expansion. I'm hoping he'll be able to post it to
the group as well.
A really good one would show not only how the cables ran but the slotand grip positions as well, since misalignments between systems was a
limiting factor in providing through services.
No such problem in Melbourne since it was all standard - except
possibly for Northcote system.
Are you sure? My remark may have been too vague, but it was inspired by the
following from page 49 of MIND THE CURVE (the reference is itself direct
quote):
"The position of the cable relative to the centre line of the slot . . .
prevented the through-routeing of Bourke Street, Collins Street and Flinders
Street trams [via Spencer Street] . . . ."
As an example of the sort of map I was asking about, attached is a low-quality
scan of part of one of my own city (!) that appears on page 390 of Hilton's
CABLE CAR IN AMERICA. The gold standard in cable car maps, I'd say, indicating
the routes of the cables themselves as well as turntables and superior- and
inferior cables at crossings.
Don
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