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Re: Sydney Metro

Michael Lewis
Monday, August 26, 2024 3:32 PM

Edgecliff station bike facility is barely used. The $100,000s wasted could have been used to install just one escalator on the 324/5 bus platform. There is a lift - in the wrong place, carefully fenced so that you won't get run over by the non-existent bikes, making the actual stop difficult to get to, quickly. The stairs are steep and long and you have no idea if a bus is present or approaching, so there is some urgency in climbing - 15-minute frequency during the day. Perfect design for a transit expert - awful for the users.

On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 8:00:15 AM UTC+10 TP wrote:
It's an accepted standard nowadays to have bicycle racks at railway stations in order to encourage alternative means of getting to a station instead of driving and parking - such means being buses, trams, cycling, walking. This is also planning ahead. If the demand isn't there now, it will doubtless grow in the future as long as it's facilitated and encouraged. With the metro, we're fortunate that these facilities can be planned from the beginning, because retrofitting is inevitably difficult. Providing bicycle facilities is relatively easy compared to retrofitting lifts and ramps to enable accessibility.

I'm not familiar with what's happened at Edgecliff in recent years, but TfNSW's map of the station doesn't show the bicycle facility, nor whether lifts that have presumably been installed extend all the way up to the bus terminus.


Tony P

On Sunday 25 August 2024 at 15:43:49 UTC+10 Greg Sutherland wrote:

Edgecliff Station on the Eastern Suburbs Line has a very impressive under cover facility with special exclusive cycleways access for quite a few years, retrofitted at great expense with you the taxpayers footing the bill.  It gets minimal use  by the cycling community and its construction  made permanent reductions on public services route buses operational  capacity and reduced the quality of bus travele rs access for thoseentering and leaving the bus interchange.

Of course we know that in Metro land sunk capital costs are of no concern.

Greg

On 22/08/2024 7:14 pm, 'TP' via TramsDownUnder wrote:
knoww that this is being "better



Tony P

On Thursday 22 August 2024 at 23:21:09 UTC+10 TP wrote:
How did that happen! Wrong video, but hope you enjoyed the performance anyway. Back to transport.


Tony P
(regretting that TDU posts can't be edited)

On Thursday 22 August 2024 at 23:18:50 UTC+10 TP wrote:
I'll file this here, but covers two metro lines and Parramatta light rail:


Tony P

On Thursday 22 August 2024 at 22:54:43 UTC+10 TP wrote:
Presumably to distract from the Parramatta light rail announcement, the government is highlighting progress with Metro West.


Tony P

On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 22:04:07 UTC+10 TP wrote:

The article states that a trend that's emerging is that about 20% of metro passengers are changing to the metro from/to Sydney Trains and intercity services at Epping (T9 Northern Line and Central Coast/Newcastle), Chatswood (T1 North Shore Line) and Sydenham (T3 Bankstown Line), rather than staying on the slower Sydney and Intercity Trains services through to the City. About 6% are interchanging to/from buses. The rest are existing + new users along the line and beyond. Park and ride/ Kiss and ride is very busy.

Not mentioned here, but a trend that started with the first stage of M1 (Tallawong-Chatswood) is that a lot of patronage comes from the Hawkesbury region and lower Blue Mountains (Windsor/Richmond/Kurrajong/Glossodia region), making Tallawong with its park and ride quite busy. There are presently almost no direct bus or rail connections to the metro from this region. Some of this patronage has transferred from the Sydney Trains Richmond line. This will only increase with the metro now running through to the city with a far better journey time and frequency than the Richmond line.

The public response has been overwhelmingly enthusiastic, with calls for more metro lines across Sydney. Among the commentary are wistful comments from people in Brisbane and Melbourne that they wished they could have the same. Melbourne certainly needs it, having now surpassed Sydney's population and in much danger of becoming very short of public transport capacity. Sydney Metro M1 incorporates provision to increase capacity to nearly twice that of the Sydney Trains system.

Tony P

On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 18:14:54 UTC+10 TP wrote:
As Sydney Metro has announced, the dwell time is deliberately extended for a period to allow newcomers to get used to the system. There are large numbers of Sydney Trains passengers accustomed to more protracted boarding transferring across to the metro. Sydney Trains T1 services between Chatswood and the City are currently running quite empty in the peaks.

There is a very tight S curve between Martin Place and Barangaroo necessitated by the positions of those two stations. If you want to hear extreme wheel squeal without protection by enclosed stations, go and wait on Perth underground station as the Bombardiers approach.

Tony P

On Tuesday 20 August 2024 at 16:33:40 UTC+10 Matthew Geier wrote:
On 20/8/24 14:31, 'TP' via TramsDownUnder wrote:

Only ‘minor’ teething issues on first day of Sydney Metro, 190,000 passengers take a ride

Just about every single one of the 425 trains darting across the new Sydney Metro line were on time on its very first day of full operation.


They should have been on time. Single line, back and forth with no junctions or interactions with other lines. Only a break down would have messed things up for them and mercifully they had no breakdowns.

They were stopping at city stations for a about twice the dwell time needed.

I was at Sydenham at around 8pm observing the train I just got from Chatswood leave again. Midway down the train some one or something jammed a train or platform door. Two platform staff RAN down the platform to investigate the flashing warning light.

I did find it rather amusing there are departure signals at Sydenham and the train signal cleared before the announcement was made that the train was departing. There are actual human visible signals in advance of all points. So there is a signal at Barangaroo as well, that while it looks and operated like a station departure signal, it's 'protecting' the crossover at that location.

Before I left Sydenham another train came out of the yard, ran into the other platform but the doors did not open. It departed shortly after empty. Presumably it returned to Tallawong as empty cars.

The rail noise between Gadigal - Martin Place and Bangaroo is quite excessive. What is it with rail planners designing routes that promote rail wear ?. Deep tubes, there is no excuse for curves so sharp wheels have to drag.




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