Re: W 2 class trams

-Murph,remember that it was Depression days and there was not a lot of money around I wouldn't mind betting that the predominant reason for W5s over Ys was simply how many cars could we get for a given amount of money,re one manning,employment was a really hot political issue,the Australian Tramway&Motor Omnibus Employees Association would have been relatively impotent given the huge number of unemployed,WGB,re VR cars 1942 was a bad year for building trams,our Railway workshops,in particular,were flat out with war production,I suspect that they were built using whatever was easiest available.Peter B.-- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "IS Edit" <isedit@g...> wrote:

Good point, Peter.

I bet the Tramways Union would have been against them.

The real name of that union was the Australian Motor Omnibus and Employees
Association.

I had a top secret security clearance in the US Army in the mid-60s and I
remember the DD-398 form "Application for Security Clearance" had a list of
what they termed "subversive organisations" on it. You had to indicate if
you had ever belonged to any of them. The only Australian organisation
listed was the ATMO&EA because it was considered Maoist because of their
Secretary Clarrie O'Shea.

Bob Murphy
----- Original Message -----
From: "groompg" <groompg@e...>
To: <TramsDownUnder@y...>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:07 AM
Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: W 2 class trams

--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "IS Edit" <isedit@g...> wrote:
. . . No matter how good it was to read,

it was a failure.

. . .

Of course, a modern tramcar cost more to build (like it had
DOORS!); seems to me like a failure in imagination on the part
of M&MTB! They could have at least have run up some more
W2s for Collins and gone with Y derivatives for later builds.

Not as much fun to ride as a W on a nice day, but mighty
welcome on a cool, wet one! Maybe too easy to one-man??

Peter Groom





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