Re: Re: Getting a vintage tram system going in Melbourne
Greg King
Saturday, December 8, 2001 8:38 AM
Hi Guys,
Just for those who are concerned about old cars etc., a system that has
something like 260 MILES of track, two routes operated by W's will fit in
just fine, as discussed elsewhere, other systems can quite happily run old
cars with new, I just wish this could be dropped out of the equation. The
W's (albeit modified) WILL return. What we should be focussing on is the
fact that cars that have not had the modifications done (read all other cars
than the 53 modified W's) will NOT be allowed to run in public service as
the paranioa is so well entrenched now as to be impossible to remove with
common sense. Our aim should be to have the Thornbury depot made the mueseum
with the operation as I suggested to merry Creek with the reserve section
and always operated with a crew of two, this is the only way I can see any
heritage cars running again. The current plans for the museum is focussing
on a NON running museum combined with the railways at Newport. That would be
a dissaster!
Greg
operating in service again that they, along with the Restaurant Cars will be
an effective precedent to occasional[at least]operation of the heritage
fleet.In the short term the operators may have enough trouble accepting W
class operation,I am reassured by Greg Kings message 1218 re W modification
and training.I would be concerned that Yarra and M might resist further
developements out of bloodymindedness if it is pushed too soon.That doesn't
mean that we shouldn't be thinking,planning and working towards some form of
heritage operation,maybe along the lines of Trolley Week.Peter,Murph tells
me you havn't been to Melb.,it would be good to see you out here.Regards to
all,Peter Bruce.--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Peter D. Ehrlich"
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Just for those who are concerned about old cars etc., a system that has
something like 260 MILES of track, two routes operated by W's will fit in
just fine, as discussed elsewhere, other systems can quite happily run old
cars with new, I just wish this could be dropped out of the equation. The
W's (albeit modified) WILL return. What we should be focussing on is the
fact that cars that have not had the modifications done (read all other cars
than the 53 modified W's) will NOT be allowed to run in public service as
the paranioa is so well entrenched now as to be impossible to remove with
common sense. Our aim should be to have the Thornbury depot made the mueseum
with the operation as I suggested to merry Creek with the reserve section
and always operated with a crew of two, this is the only way I can see any
heritage cars running again. The current plans for the museum is focussing
on a NON running museum combined with the railways at Newport. That would be
a dissaster!
Greg
G'day Peter E.My message 1205 was meant to address these distractingissues,interesting though they are.I feel sure that once we have Ws
operating in service again that they, along with the Restaurant Cars will be
an effective precedent to occasional[at least]operation of the heritage
fleet.In the short term the operators may have enough trouble accepting W
class operation,I am reassured by Greg Kings message 1218 re W modification
and training.I would be concerned that Yarra and M might resist further
developements out of bloodymindedness if it is pushed too soon.That doesn't
mean that we shouldn't be thinking,planning and working towards some form of
heritage operation,maybe along the lines of Trolley Week.Peter,Murph tells
me you havn't been to Melb.,it would be good to see you out here.Regards to
all,Peter Bruce.--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Peter D. Ehrlich"
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