Re: Re: Melbourne Historic Fleet - thoughts
Bill Bolton
Thursday, December 6, 2001 3:10 AM
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:46:58 +1100, Bill wrote:
What exactly about them?
If you look at how those system s are used, with the (only partial)
exception of the SF, most of the others exist specifically to handle
tourist style traffic between tourist style destinations. They may
serve a "real tranport purposes" in moving tourists but they are
mostly, at best, small side shows in public movement of residents in
the cities concerned.
There are clearly benefits arising in terms of ridership levels in
keeping the whole infrastructure package of any particular mode
reasonably up to date, but there is also clear evidince that just
providing relatively new vehicles has a significnat positive impact on
ridership in itself.
What was the correlation Bob?
The M&MTB annual reports and press reports at the time indicated very
high levels of acceptance and prefenece for the new Z trams over the
existing cars.
Cheers,
Bill
Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia
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What about San Francisco's F line streetcars, New Orleans streetcars, SF's
cable cars?
What exactly about them?
What about the new tram systems all over the US using historical trams for
real transport purposes?
If you look at how those system s are used, with the (only partial)
exception of the SF, most of the others exist specifically to handle
tourist style traffic between tourist style destinations. They may
serve a "real tranport purposes" in moving tourists but they are
mostly, at best, small side shows in public movement of residents in
the cities concerned.
The ridership level increases when transport systems got new rolling stock
was as much related to concomitant improvements in stations/stops, lighting,
security and often reduced travel times. There was a package deal.
There are clearly benefits arising in terms of ridership levels in
keeping the whole infrastructure package of any particular mode
reasonably up to date, but there is also clear evidince that just
providing relatively new vehicles has a significnat positive impact on
ridership in itself.
Also keep in mind some studies done in San Francisco that showed a strong
correlation between the socio-economic status of transit riders and the
speed of that transit service in a given transit corridor vs private motor
cars.
What was the correlation Bob?
So no parallel between PCC introduction and the introduction
of modern cars here in Melbourne.
The M&MTB annual reports and press reports at the time indicated very
high levels of acceptance and prefenece for the new Z trams over the
existing cars.
Cheers,
Bill
Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia
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