Re: Running Ws in service&old trams generally.>
brgamble
Monday, December 3, 2001 6:23 PM
Yes this is exactly what I (and David Cawood presumably) meant in
earlier messages. But I have to accept that it won't happen without
(a) a groundswell of support (b) the people in places of power who
are prepared to push it (c) a lot of hard work. And it won't happen
if 93 people on this group just sit about staring into their computer
screens will it?
--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Peter D. Ehrlich" <norcalrr@s...> wrote:
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earlier messages. But I have to accept that it won't happen without
(a) a groundswell of support (b) the people in places of power who
are prepared to push it (c) a lot of hard work. And it won't happen
if 93 people on this group just sit about staring into their computer
screens will it?
--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Peter D. Ehrlich" <norcalrr@s...> wrote:
by
Muni got it done through a lot of blood, sweat and tears--hard work
dedicated and interested people both within Muni and without. Thetrolley
booster organization Market Street Railway was most influential ingetting
the job done, but the support of neighborhood groups such as CastroStreet
merchants, and also ones boosting downtown--the Chamber ofCommerce, Market
Street Merchants associations, etc.many layers
A lot of hurdles had to be overcome. One was the mindset within
of Muni management to have nothing to do with old streetcars aftertheir
retirement in 1982. In fact, the master plans at the time were torip up
the tracks. Fortunately, they were still in place in 1983 when thefirst of
the summertime Trolley Festivals began. With the success of theTrolley
Festivals, and the support of a general manager who was a dyed-in-the-wool
railfan, the Mayor worked on a plan to line up funding forrebuilding the
Market Street tracks, obtain the cars needed for the service, etc.Still,
there was a lot of opposition within middle management, whichstalled the
project as much as they could before political pressure forcedthese people
to see the light, begrudgingly. And after September 1, 1995, therest is
history.the hated
The other impetus was the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. It damaged
(except by Chinatown interests) beyond repair. In 1992 it wasdemolished,
opening up the Embarcadero to residents. The project to create andrebuild
the Embarcadero Roadway included trolley tracks to Fisherman'sWharf was
substantially complete by March 4, 2000, allowing F-Line service toopen to
the Wharf.packed into F
The original F-Line carried betwen 8,000 and 9,000 riders a day. In
February 2001, with the line now extended, over 19,000 riders
cars. The line has been instrumental in getting residents to rideto the
Northern Waterfront, whereas before the F line, the alternativeswere to
ride slow, bumpy buses with a transfer required.published in
I wrote an article on the original F Line opening, which was
the now-defunct magazine Passenger Train Journal in June 1996. Itdescribes
in detail how the process was done. I have been planning to makecopies of
it, but have been reluctant to do so without contacting thepublisher first
(even though it's MY article! LOL). If you're interested, e-mailme
privately at <norcalrr@s...>.it a
You folks in Melbourne have a lot of work cut out for you to make
reality there. But it can be done. An organization similar toMarket
Street Railway would be a big help in the process.
Milantram
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