Something from Transport Canberra just flashed up on my social media with a
comment that the light rail (now 5 years old) is carrying 20% of ACT public
transport patronage - which would thus be about 16 million per annum. Not a
public transport city much.
Tony P
On Friday 19 April 2024 at 13:40:13 UTC+10 Matthew Geier wrote:
> The Newcastle line is actually shorter than the Sydney Tramway Museum's
> route!
>
> And it doesn't help that for many months they have been down one tram, so
> they have no operational spare, so when one of the remaining cars has to go
> in for it's regular inspection, they have to cut back the service frequency.
>
> This will not be endearing itself to prospective users.
>
> Hop off the train, walk over to the tram platform, find the next service
> is in 20 minutes, so you walk instead and still get to your destination
> before the tram would.
>
>
> On 19/4/24 11:59, Bob Pearce wrote:
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> Well I guess it has to start somewhere.
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>
>
> Newcastle, I’m surprised, hasn’t done anything to shore up its existence.
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> It was I think always going to be a white elephant. My one regret was not
> having travelled to Newcastle by train when the line actually went to the
> city.
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>
>
> Did the cutback achieve the BS put out when it was done other than to line
> the pockets of the developers?
>
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>
> *From:*tramsdo...@... tramsdo...@...> *On
> Behalf Of *TP
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2024 9:54 AM
> *To:* TramsDownUnder tramsdo...@...>
> *Subject:* [TramsDownUnder] Re: Canberra- CAF
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> Oh, and the patronage is about 3.2 million per annum, the lowest of any
> Australian tram route except for Newcastle. It probably attracts more
> people than any Canberra bus route though. The vast majority of Canberrans
> drive. One has to start somewhere.
>
>
>
> Tony P
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>
> On Friday 19 April 2024 at 11:49:14 UTC+10 TP wrote:
>
> Mal, it is well-operated, (as one would expect from a German operator) but
> there are barely any curves in the route and the couple there are have very
> generous radius. CAFs and Citadis are suitable for such routes. The debate
> is about their suitability for routes that have lots of sharp corners.
>
>
>
> Tony P
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>
> On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 16:49:56 UTC+10 Malcolm Rowe wrote:
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> I am impressed.
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>
> Canberra seems to me to encapsulate everything that a light rail system
> should be.
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>
>
> The service is fast and smooth with priority at traffic lights and
> complete track segregation. Even when the track swings over to the side of
> the road for depot access it is under traffic light control with priority.
>
>
>
> There was no sign of rough ride or wheel squeal on curves. It seems that
> fixed truck trams can work if the track geometry is designed for them.
>
> Speed and acceleration was good - with the trams running just below
> the local speed limits of either 60 or 70 km/h as measured with my mobile
> phone app.
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>
>
> Here are a couple of pics - both in Flemington Rd. The overhead structure
> is not overdone. Ignore the apparent sharp curves - that's due to me using
> a telephoto lens.
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>
> Mal Rowe - who has a bit more respect for CAF design in the right setting.
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> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:19 PM Malcolm Rowe mal....@...> wrote:
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> Today's pic shows CAF 14 at the Civic terminus in Canberra.
>
> I'm planning to have a ride tomorrow.
>
>
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