Clem appears to have actually believed in something and followed it
through, for better or worse.

The current lot seem for the most part to simply appose what their
'opposite number' propose.

And even then most proposals seem to come from 'business associates' and
not by analysis of the society needs.

On 19/4/24 09:27, Mark Skinner wrote:
> Clem Jones enters the chat.

>

> I'd say it's 50-50.

>