Clem Jones enters the chat.
I'd say it's 50-50.
Mark Skinner
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024, 8:29 pm Bob Pearce, probert@...> wrote:
> Thanks Mal,
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> Without getting too political, what is it about the Libs in any place
> being so anti rail – whether it be light or heavy.
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> Obviously the benefits can be seen, the pax capacity, and if done
> correctly, the advantages over the rubber tyred conveyances.
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> As a feeder service to Heavy or Light Rail, I see and appreciate their
> worth. But until I know that one artic tram, or many car train, is NOT
> proven to be so much more economical to carry the same number of pax as
> many buses which take up much road space, the anti-rail brigade will never
> get my vote.
>
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> They didn’t back in ’83 when the change of Govt here (WA) got the
> Fremantle line up and running again, and they’ve never had it since.
>
> So many broken promises around public transport.
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> End of rant.
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> Bob in Perth
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> *From:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...> *On
> Behalf Of *Malcolm Rowe
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 6:45 PM
> *To:*tramsdownunder@...
> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Canberra- CAF
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> Hi Bob,
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> My experience was a couple of short trips in the middle of a week day - so
> hardly definitive.
>
> The trams had most seats occupied and some passengers who were *happy *to
> stand - not something that you could say about most bus travel!
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> A short extension to the lakeside is already under construction.
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> See: https://www.act.gov.au/lightrailtowoden/stage-2a
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> The light rail was a condition for the support of the Greens in forming a
> Labor lead government here.
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> Mal Rowe - not expecting the coalition to gain power in their own right
> any time soon.
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> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 7:30 PM Bob Pearce probert@...> wrote:
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> Gday Mal,
>
> What is the patronage like?
>
> I have read that the opposition – if elected – are going to stop the
> extensions.
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> I wonder if the pax levels justify the system, or its expansion?
>
>
>
> Bob in Perth
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>
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> *From:*tramsdownunder@... tramsdownunder@...> *On
> Behalf Of *Malcolm Rowe
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2024 2:50 PM
> *To:* TramsDownUnder tramsdownunder@...>
> *Subject:* [TramsDownUnder] Re: Canberra- CAF
>
>
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> I am impressed.
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> Canberra seems to me to encapsulate everything that a light rail system
> should be.
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> The service is fast and smooth with priority at traffic lights and
> complete track segregation. Even when the track swings over to the side of
> the road for depot access it is under traffic light control with priority.
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>
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> There was no sign of rough ride or wheel squeal on curves. It seems that
> fixed truck trams can work if the track geometry is designed for them.
>
> Speed and acceleration was good - with the trams running just below
> the local speed limits of either 60 or 70 km/h as measured with my mobile
> phone app.
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>
> Here are a couple of pics - both in Flemington Rd. The overhead structure
> is not overdone. Ignore the apparent sharp curves - that's due to me using
> a telephoto lens.
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> Mal Rowe - who has a bit more respect for CAF design in the right setting.
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> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:19 PM Malcolm Rowe mal.rowe@...> wrote:
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> Today's pic shows CAF 14 at the Civic terminus in Canberra.
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> I'm planning to have a ride tomorrow.
>
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