It's not only the acceptance of historic vehicles though. They actually
have a pride in their history. They do open days and tram parades at the
slightest excuse. Also, it's not limited to the major cities. I am going
to Hradec Králové (94,000 pop.) in May, and they are celebrating 75 years
of trolleybuses. This active support and encouragement of history is a
complete cultural contrast to Australia where ignorance of history is
treated like a virtue. To the cost of the ever suffering taxpayer.

https://www.kudyznudy.cz/akce/oslavy-75-vyroci-trolejbusove-dopravy-v-hradci-kra#:~:text=V%20roce%202024%20uplyne%2075,od%209.00%20do%2014.00%20hod
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Mark Skinner

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, 11:13 am Greg Sutherland, < gregsutherland@...> wrote:

> My experience was in Goteborg, likewise absolutely unforgettable and the

> vintage tram even had a transponder to get traffic light priority!

>

> Greg

>

>

> On 15/03/2024 10:44 am, Mark Skinner wrote:

>

> I note the subtle "retro" reference in the first scene where the tram

> heads backwards into the reversing triangle.

>

> It's not only Prague though. I had an experience in Warsaw with a single

> trucker going all out. Absolutely unforgettable.

>

> Mark Skinner

>

> On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, 12:06 am TP, historyworks@...> wrote:

>

>> It didn't help that my view of trams was formed by this, before I

>> returned to experience modern tram operation in Australia (and this was

>> filmed in a heritage tourist tram, never mind a regular service!):

>>

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5tqfuikKC8

>>

>> This ruined me for life.

>>

>> Gold Coast and Canberra have had a crack at something better, though

>> helped by longer stop spacings and priority, but otherwise why are our

>> Australian trams driven like hearses?

>>

>> Tony P

>>

>> On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 20:14:10 UTC+11 TP wrote:

>>

>>> A tram with dedicated tram lanes and the same number of stops should

>>> take about 20 to 22 minutes, 25 at the absolute outside, to cover 8.5 km.

>>> They're both terrible operations, but Melbourne has the excuse of a number

>>> of legacy institutional constraints, including lack of priority. Sydney L2

>>> was designed and built as a new line and has no excuses other than

>>> incompetence.

>>>

>>> Also, I don't think there's generally a tradition of quick public

>>> transport journeys in either city and the status quo is sort of accepted,

>>> except by those few who have experienced better systems elsewhere. Sydney

>>> is now getting an eye-opener with the metro and the technology revolution

>>> on the ferries that have both speeded up journeys immensely. Light rail,

>>> buses and suburban trains will doubtless continue to amble along as they

>>> always have. The old tram system was faster.

>>>

>>> Tony P

>>> (who finds riding Sydney's light rail is like watching grass grow)

>>>

>>> On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 14:46:30 UTC+11 Richard Youl wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Which Tram is Slower? Sydney L2 or Melbourne 96?

>>>> https://youtu.be/gJ7st9dn0as

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Richard

>>>>

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