Yes, not what people may expect. It proves slow and steady wins the race. If Melbourne ever gets tram priority at lights (no doubt the traffic light programmers will want to keep their record of delaying trams as much as possible for over 80 years), it would easily beat Sydney.
Gold Coast kills both doing 11.5 km in 32 minutes. I expect that Canberra would be similar.
Richard
On 15 Mar 2024, at 7:27 am, 'David Batho' via TramsDownUnder tramsdownunder@...> wrote:
Thanks, Richard. Surprised to see that Sydney is faster, although not by much!
David
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On 15 Mar 2024, at 12:36 am, TP historyworks@...> wrote:
It didn't help that my view of trams was formed by this, before I returned to experience modern tram operation in Australia (and this was filmed in a heritage tourist tram, never mind a regular service!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5tqfuikKC8
This ruined me for life.
Gold Coast and Canberra have had a crack at something better, though helped by longer stop spacings and priority, but otherwise why are our Australian trams driven like hearses?
Tony P
On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 20:14:10 UTC+11 TP wrote:
A tram with dedicated tram lanes and the same number of stops should take about 20 to 22 minutes, 25 at the absolute outside, to cover 8.5 km. They're both terrible operations, but Melbourne has the excuse of a number of legacy institutional constraints, including lack of priority. Sydney L2 was designed and built as a new line and has no excuses other than incompetence.
Also, I don't think there's generally a tradition of quick public transport journeys in either city and the status quo is sort of accepted, except by those few who have experienced better systems elsewhere. Sydney is now getting an eye-opener with the metro and the technology revolution on the ferries that have both speeded up journeys immensely. Light rail, buses and suburban trains will doubtless continue to amble along as they always have. The old tram system was faster.
Tony P(who finds riding Sydney's light rail is like watching grass grow)
On Thursday 14 March 2024 at 14:46:30 UTC+11 Richard Youl wrote:
Which Tram is Slower? Sydney L2 or Melbourne 96?
https://youtu.be/gJ7st9dn0as
Richard
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