As an existing customer, Barcelona would be easy to slip APS into. In
reality, for new orders across the EU, the common tendering rules mean that
bids must be openly sought from a range of manufacturers and price is the
highest scored criterion in the typical tender - bad news for those who
wish that technical excellence should be highly prioritised, it's not. So
the old loyalty to the domestic manufacturers in each country in years past
has been broken down. So we see Alstoms in Spain, but we also see CAFs in
France.
Tony P
On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 09:08:02 UTC+10gregsut...@... wrote:
>
> Barcelona is Alstrom's toehold in Spain with the two currently separate
> lines in the city using Citadis cars dating from pre CAF Urbos times.
>
> I sense the superb marketing of Alstrom here. They virtually give the APS
> system to the city for the new line and then say to all the gullible rubes
> from other cities
>
> "Look even Spain the home of CAF the major city uses ALstom LRVs and APS,
> you must select Alstom and APS for your wonderful city". I will bet TfNSW
> has all the latest brochures.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 6/08/2022 11:16 pm, David Batho wrote:
>
> Thanks for that, David.
>
> David
>
>
> On 6 Aug 2022, at 12:54 pm, David McLoughlin mcloug...@...> wrote:
>
>
> David wrote:
>
> > I’m guessing “APS” is the system used in Sydney?
>
> Yes. APS is French, "Alimentation par Sol" and literally means "ground
> feeding," for "ground-feeding power."
>
> In their English propaganda, they call it by a greenwash term, "aesthetic
> power supply."
>
> I may be wrong, but I understand that because it is a proprietary system,
> only Alstom trams can use it, so the CAF trams used on the Dulwich Hill
> line can't be retrofitted to get further north than Town Hall, where the
> overhead ends and APS starts for the run to Circular Quay.
>
> dmcl
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