Re: Re: (TAN) | GVB Amsterdam | CAF Urbos 100 | New tram - YouTube
  Mark Skinner

I think you've hit the nail on the head there Tony. These trams are cheap
and likely suitable for flat and straight routes. If an operator has such
routes, why not use the most economical vehicle?

The problem seems to be that the operators buying these vehicles and using
them are not informed buyers. They are not informed buyers because that
skill set has been driven out by the economists and accountants who fixate
on costs and the occasional aberrant engineer (shout out to Mr C Newman,
Queensland) who seem to think that trams, trains, ferries...and submarines
are items you order off the shelf like dinky toys. Further, many of the
consultants in Australia are not much better. A couple of cheap
consultancies let to VUKV would have saved Australian operators hundreds of
millions of dollars and years of stress.

Nothing like reinventing the wheel.

/end rant. Haha.

On Mon, 29 Nov 2021, 1:01 pm TP, historyworks@...> wrote:

> The CAF trams in Amsterdam are used on routes that don't pass over that

> type of bridge. Budapest has done the same as Amsterdam (Combino, then

> later CAF) and had initial problems with their Combinos which they tried to

> return to Siemens but they couldn't get out of the contract, so fixed them

> up and have used them ever since. You;'d think that Budapest would, even

> more, know better, but, like the Combino, the CAFs are confined to routes

> that are most suitable for them.

>

> Tony P

>

> On Monday, 29 November 2021 at 12:40:38 UTC+11a...@... wrote:

>

>> After their astute choice of the Siemens Combino as their Tram Of The

>> Future, GVB Amsterdam followed up by picking the CAF Urbos 100 to be the

>> next one.

>>

>> Surprising they didn’t know of problems with the type, you’d think an

>> operator like this would’ve been around long enough to know to do some due

>> diligence into what they’re buying, particularly after their Combino

>> experience.

>>

>> I wonder how those hump backed, gauntlet tracked canal bridges that did

>> in the Combinos are treating them? :

>>

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFjeOHfmbxs

>>

>>

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOGOuhKeSQ8

>>

>> (I’ll have to ask Wifey to have a go at translating the Dutch subtitles

>> in the second vid, she speaks Afrikaans, but you can sorta work out what

>> they’re saying)

>>

>> Tony

>>

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