And a sense of satisfaction that Sydney doesn't share the appalling death
and injury toll from those double deck buses coming unstuck on all those
hills in Hong Kong.
Tony P
On Sunday, 19 September 2021 at 15:04:10 UTC+10dba...@... wrote:
> They’d have conniptions seeing some of the streets Hong Kong double-deck
> buses operate in, too (both in steepness of gradient and in width)!
>
> David
>
>
> On 31 Aug 2021, at 9:24 pm, Greg Sutherland gregsut...@...>
> wrote:
>
> Straight out of the Heavy Rail 101 text book for dummies - level platforms
> and island platforms a must, just wait for the Southern Aurora to come
> through.
>
> Also note that Collins Street and Bourke Street in Melbourne (should I
> even be so bold as to mention) have in recent years seen construction of
> fully accessible tram/light rail platform stops. Yarra trams have
> provision in their standards for graded tram stops.
>
> In Sydney accessible bus services in areas such as Bondi Road and William
> Street heading east see buses discharging passengers onto a footpath bus
> stop where both the roadway and the footpath where the gradients are
> significantly steeper than the maximum DDA. There is no evidence of these
> stops being modified. There are significant lengths of unbroken grades on
> these roads and let's not mention 'heart break hill', if they were fair
> dinkum they would have to withdraw the bus services.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 31/08/2021 12:29 pm, TP wrote:
>
> The issue is Australia is not being on a gradient per se, but whether the
> gradient is compliant with the maximum allowed under DDA regulations.
> Wheelchair users can have difficulties if the gradient is too much. I
> recall that this is cited as the reason from not having the stop in George
> St near Liverpool St - whether true or not or just an excuse I don't know.
> But I do recall at one stage they were considering excavating at the upper
> end of the stop and filling at the lower end in order to bring the grade
> into compliance and perhaps they gave it up as too hard/costly.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 12:22:06 UTC+10 Matthew Geier wrote:
>
>> They don't need to go to one of those countries that speak strange lingo.
>> Sheffield, UK has extremely steep grades and stops on those grades.
>> The University of Sheffield stop would give TfNSW a case of the
>> wobbles.
>> The Sheffield trams are equipped to drop sand at the rear, just in
>> case a driver find themselves sliding BACKWARDS down the grade.
>>
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 11:58, Greg Sutherland
>> gregsut...@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks like TfNSW and their consultant experts haven't told the Swiss
>> that you can't have a tram stop that is not on the level!
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I continue to walk along Ramistrasse to Gloriastrasse
>> >
>> > The next stop a short distance downhill in Ramistrasse is the Law
>> Library (at left) stop. 2017 is climbing away from that stop towards
>> Gloriastrasse while 3054 pauses on a route 9 service towards Wiedikon.
>> >
>> https://gallery.steam4me.net/albums/trams/international/2017-eu/ch_zrh_2089_3054_ramistr_n7k2_16820.jpg
>> >
>> > 2094 on a route 5 service pauses at the Law Library stop heading
>> downhill towards Enge station in Laubegg.
>> >
>> https://gallery.steam4me.net/albums/trams/international/2017-eu/ch_zrh_2094_ramistr_n7k2_16823.jpg
>> >
>> > Yuri.
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