As a regular rider on the L3, I have observed numerous "traffic light derbies" and in most cases the buses have been quicker off the mark initially, but the tram will catch up and overtake within 20-30 metres. An accelerating bus can generally require a good hand hold if standing or moving to a seat, whereas a tram does not seem to.

On Saturday, 8 May 2021, 11:12:49 am AEST, TP historyworks@...> wrote:

A tram will be quicker off the mark than a diesel bus and more comfortable for passengers too. It's the way they're driven in Sydney and the lower acceleration/deceleration specs for the Citadis and CAF that might make them a bit slower.
Tony P

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:30:56 AM UTC+10bblun...@... wrote:
If you put the two modes side by side in a straight uninterrupted comparison, they would be pretty much the same. The tram is probably slower off the mark (to give better passenger comfort) but will quickly catch up to the bus.

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 9:30:56 AM UTC+10bblun...@... wrote:

If you put the two modes side by side in a straight uninterrupted comparison, they would be pretty much the same. The tram is probably slower off the mark (to give better passenger comfort) but will quickly catch up to the bus.

In the Sydney system there are a lot curves and "disruptions" on the tram route. It takes a 65 metre tram much longer to get around a corner and recover than a 12 metre bus. Many of these curves are quite tight radius, obvious from the flange squealing that results.

The journey time is longer end to end because the tram route is longer than the bus, and has more interruptions from cross traffic and pedestrians.

On Saturday, 8 May 2021, 8:04:36 am AEST, 'TONY TIEULI' via TramsDownUnder tramsdo...@...> wrote:

Gear ratio?

TONY TIEULI cir...@...

> On May 7, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Mick Duncan kit...@...> wrote:

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> Gday  All

>

> Why is a 600 Hp tram slower than a 200 Hp bus allowing for power to

> weight ratios

>

> Cheers,    Mick

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