Re: Earbashing on trams about to be increased by Yarra
  TP

I was on a British Rail HST many years ago riding up to Scotland and the
conductor was Scottish (probably Glasgow to be more specific). His
announcements were completely incomprehensible, made worse by a faulty mic
cutting in and out. At the end of every long announcement, the carriage
would burst out in laughter. To paraphrase Churchill, two great "nations"
divided by a common language.

Tony P

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 12:25:49 UTC+11 Bob Pearce wrote:

> Gosh, who was the fatal person?

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> Is this someone who walks around in a non-fatal state?

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> Are we, the readers, non-fatal, whilst those who can’t read ‘fatal’?

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> Sometimes, I think that much of these computer generated announcements,

> were set up by people from other lands who only have a minor grasp of

> English.

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> And then when creating a message from these computer generated

> announcements, the constructor has to work with what is provided, because

> they are not permitted to do a ‘live’ message which is recorded and played

> to the passengers.

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> Of course, the person who might need to construct such a message may not a

> full grasp of English in any case, or has an accent so thick from the own

> former country that it is almost impossible to understand them.

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> For employment purposes, occupations which require a good clear diction

> should be able to employ people based on their ability to speak with clear

> diction.

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> It does the wider populace no good at all to have a person with poor

> language skills advising of emergency conditions or out of the norm

> situations, if no one can understand them.

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> Bob in Perth

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> *From:*tramsdo...@... tramsdo...@...> *On

> Behalf Of *Hunslet

> *Sent:* Thursday, 7 January 2021 9:02 AM

> *To:*tramsdo...@...

> *Subject:* RE: [TramsDownUnder] Earbashing on trams about to be increased

> by Yarra

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> This message was posted by Transport for NSW on 5th January to explain

> train delays on Sydney’s Western Line: “T1 Western Line - UPDATED 5 Jan

> 21:32, Ongoing. Details = Allow plenty of extra travel time due to a

> fatal person hit by a train at Mt Druitt.”

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> Hunslet

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> *From:*tramsdo...@... [mailto:tramsdo...@googlegroups.com] *On

> Behalf Of *Yuri Sos

> *Sent:* Thursday, 7 January 2021 10:03 AM

> *To:*tramsdo...@...

> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Earbashing on trams about to be increased

> by Yarra

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> My two beefs are the volume that the message is blasted out and the

> incorrect grammar in the messaging.

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> For example, a 109 tram outbound from the City passes the Casino stop then

> turns right and stops at the next stop, Clarendon Street junction, then

> continues straight to Beacon Cove.

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> However this is the message broadcast approaching the casino stop:

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> "Stopping at Casino stop number 124A.

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> "At THIS stop the doors will open on the left side of the tram.

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> "Change HERE for route 12 and route 96.

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> "After the NEXT stop the tram will turn right."

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> Pause

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> "THIS stop is Casino."

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> I have offered feedback that the message should say "after THIS stop the

> tram will turn right" but was told that the message as spoken has been

> checked and the grammar has found to be correct.

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> Is English grammar no longer taught in schools? More precisely does no one

> in Yarra Trams understand basic grammar? (or is it that English is a second

> language for the French CEO? which could excuse him but not his minions.)

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> Yuri.

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