Re: Re: Motorists' Right Turns in M'bourne

Agree,

Have driven trams, buses, trucks, courier vehicles and bicycles in
Melbourne.

In the main, the hook turns work well. Tram delays are minimised. The tram
streets in the CBD carry a huge volume of trams. Most of the tracks carry
multiple lines. They deserve the priority.

And, for the most part, there is insufficient street space for right turn
lanes and, most of the time, too much traffic and too many trams to make it
worth losing time for right turn lanes.

Bob Murphy
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Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Motorists' Right Turns in M'bourne

But then a right-turn arrow would delay the trams? Since a tram
carries more people than a car, it should (continue to) be the
motorist who pays the penalty. The hook turn is one of those lovely
local customs that I would NOT like to see scrapped. If you can't
hack it, don't drive your car there!
Bruce

--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Andy B" <andyx@o...> wrote:

When I was in M'bourne in the late '80s, I remember that there
was a very odd (to me) arrangement for motorists turning right
across tramlines at signaled intersections. I didn't have a car

for

my visit so I didn't have to learn how it worked.

1. Would someone please explain how it works?

2. Is it still being used?

3. Did any other tram cities in the "keep left" world use it?

These hook turns are still in use at most city intersections. The

idea

being that cars will not delay a tram.

If you want to turn right, you move into the left hand lane. When

you get

the green light you move off, and move into the intersection and

stop just

next to the pedestrian crossing. When the lights turn green for the
opposite direction, you turn and go.

Unfortunately it causes delays for cars, as you will only get about

3 or 4

cars through in each cycle. I firmly believe that they should be

abolished

and right hand arrows should be introduced.

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