Design of new LRVs [was Re: Handicap}

It would be interesting to get some information from the Melbourne
people who wrote the specification for the Citidas supply. Does
anyone have access to this? The technical stuff should be a public
document (whereas the commercial conditions may be sensitive). How
much did the Melbourne purchasers rely on specification documents
written by the supplier? To what extent were the documents written
(or modified) to cover Melbourne conditions? (We have already heard
about the driver/fail-safe/deadman controls which sound excessive -
were these really thought about and discussed prior to purchase? And
what about Melbourne track alignment - as distinct from European "new
system" trackwork which one would expect to be geometrically more
precise?)
I wouldn't be so scathing (yet) as to say "idiots" - more info of the
type above is needed before we make the accusation that technically
incompetent managers have taken over in the Melbourne transport
scene. I can only say that NZ took up the "free-market, managers-are-
god, everything-is-deregulated, and there-are-no-unions-anymore"
approach to running a country far more extensively and far sooner
than has Australia. We have learned from this and are further through
the cycle of return to balance than are the Aussies. But they will go
through it I'm sure and the worst is yet to come.


--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "IS Edit" <isedit@g...> wrote:

Jeez,

It's boring when I pointed out the probably effects of that silly

bogie

arrangement and the excessive vertical and lateral movement likely

to result

at the articulations without even seeing the car.

What's with these schmucks that they can't even see the inherent

design

deficiency?

Idiots.


Bob Murphy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg King" <tramway@a...>
To: <TramsDownUnder@y...>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Handicap

Hi guys,

Today, the Citadis carried what is believed to be the first

wheelchair

folk

on a tram here, the car has a manual ramp for stops that are not

equiped

with any platform, those that are (or will be) are accomadated by

a

movable

ramp, well, the tram had another four B's lined up behind it in

the Mall

whilst the driver and the TA's man handled the ramp into

position. Also,

due

to the cars basically being two single truck cars in multiple

unit, the

way

they hit any curve is "impressive", speed limits have been

imposed on

curves

for these cars of 5kph, I sometimes wonder where the progress is

supposed

to

be.




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