Further to M>Trams etc withdrawal
tramcar277 <[email protected]>
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:55 AM
Hello all,
Something similar happened here in Adelaide in February 1974.
After some negotations with the Government of the day, the majority
of private bus operators which operated services within the
metropolitan area, under the control of the then 'Municipal tramways
Trust' (MTT), agreed to be taken over by the MTT. (This was a
consequence of the Government not being prepared to allow a fare
rise sought by the operators). This resulted in a major upheaval for
the MTT who took over a varied collection of private buses and
depots, gradually incorporating them into its own operations,
closing the small ex-private depots, buying a large number of buses
etc. The whole thing took over 5 years to achieve - it was well into
1980 before the last ex private buses disappeared.
The most interesting point, which seems to have particular
similarities to the Melbourne situation, was that one operator,
Lewis Brothers (I think the second largest of the private operators).
refused to hand over their buses and depots, and simply withdrew
from route operations, giving 1 week's notice.
Fortunately, the MTT had retained 40 or so of the famous 'three-
door' buses, which had replaced the trams in the 1950s, and which
themselves had been made redundant by the switch to one person
operation between 1969 and 1972.
These had been stored for over a year, and needed hasty bringing up
to scratch, as well as rosters being prepared etc within the week.
It all went quite well, and that period stands out as one of the
most interesting in Adelaide's public transport history.
I may be breaking a rule here, so I apologise if so, but while I
am 'on-line' someone asked 2 or 3 weeks ago about operation of
coupled sets on the Glenelg line, and I don't think anyone replied.
Coupled set operation is still the norm in both morning and
afternoon peak periods, roughly from 7.00 am to 9.30 am and 3.00 pm
to 6.00 pm.
During school holidays and other special events (eg Royal Show
weeks), coupled set operation continues right through the day. At
the moment coupled operation has commenced a week or two ago, and
will continue until the end of January.
Coipled set operation through the day is also the norm on weekends
for the period of the 'Summer Timetable' -Ocotber to April, roughly.
The actual distinction between summer & winter timetables ceased
about 2 years ago, but it still defines the period of coupled
operation.
Less frequently, coupled sets are used after 6.30 pm if there is
some special event on (this applied during the Grand Prix here
between 1985 and 1995)
I noticed a coupled set in Victoria Square at about 8.00 pm about 3
Fridays ago - I'm not sure what was on in town, but there must have
been something.
Cheers,
Trevor Tate
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Something similar happened here in Adelaide in February 1974.
After some negotations with the Government of the day, the majority
of private bus operators which operated services within the
metropolitan area, under the control of the then 'Municipal tramways
Trust' (MTT), agreed to be taken over by the MTT. (This was a
consequence of the Government not being prepared to allow a fare
rise sought by the operators). This resulted in a major upheaval for
the MTT who took over a varied collection of private buses and
depots, gradually incorporating them into its own operations,
closing the small ex-private depots, buying a large number of buses
etc. The whole thing took over 5 years to achieve - it was well into
1980 before the last ex private buses disappeared.
The most interesting point, which seems to have particular
similarities to the Melbourne situation, was that one operator,
Lewis Brothers (I think the second largest of the private operators).
refused to hand over their buses and depots, and simply withdrew
from route operations, giving 1 week's notice.
Fortunately, the MTT had retained 40 or so of the famous 'three-
door' buses, which had replaced the trams in the 1950s, and which
themselves had been made redundant by the switch to one person
operation between 1969 and 1972.
These had been stored for over a year, and needed hasty bringing up
to scratch, as well as rosters being prepared etc within the week.
It all went quite well, and that period stands out as one of the
most interesting in Adelaide's public transport history.
I may be breaking a rule here, so I apologise if so, but while I
am 'on-line' someone asked 2 or 3 weeks ago about operation of
coupled sets on the Glenelg line, and I don't think anyone replied.
Coupled set operation is still the norm in both morning and
afternoon peak periods, roughly from 7.00 am to 9.30 am and 3.00 pm
to 6.00 pm.
During school holidays and other special events (eg Royal Show
weeks), coupled set operation continues right through the day. At
the moment coupled operation has commenced a week or two ago, and
will continue until the end of January.
Coipled set operation through the day is also the norm on weekends
for the period of the 'Summer Timetable' -Ocotber to April, roughly.
The actual distinction between summer & winter timetables ceased
about 2 years ago, but it still defines the period of coupled
operation.
Less frequently, coupled sets are used after 6.30 pm if there is
some special event on (this applied during the Grand Prix here
between 1985 and 1995)
I noticed a coupled set in Victoria Square at about 8.00 pm about 3
Fridays ago - I'm not sure what was on in town, but there must have
been something.
Cheers,
Trevor Tate
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