Re: The New and Improved W's

Agree on the doors. The interlock was the death knell for that door design.
It has a long way to travel and is heavy and it takes time to accelerate and
decelerate when it is opening and closing. It is way too slow the way it is
set up now and I can't see any solution for it with one man operation.

That's amazing about those damn ticket machines. It sounds like Monty
Python. I hadn't heard that before, Greg.

Certainly the weight of the ticket machine and the counterweight must be as
much as sliding doors and their mechanisms. And remember how much the
installation of doors slowed down the W class trams? I used to really like
Clydes but we had one slow one at Essendon. It was 787 I think and it was
the only one with sliding doors. They all slowed down when the doors were
put in. What a drag.

I guess the idiots have just about stuffed those cars. And they don't want
to fix the problem(s).

Shame.

I really liked them.

Bob Murphy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg King" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] The New and Improved W's

That's basically true, even the majority of the crews don't want them

back,

mainly because the doors are so slow in one man configuration and it's
difficult to keep any relation to a time table. With all the crap about

the

brakes, whilst the slack adjusters were part of the problem, the problem

was

never major on the City Circle cars because, the green W's had their brake
rigging modified for the ticket machines, located in the centre of the car
to one side, over balance the car and a counter weight had to put on the
other side, right where the brake rigging was!!!

Greg

Personally, I think there was an ethos in the old M&MTB that new is

better

and W-class trams are distasteful old relics which do not project the

public

image they wanted. I think that is still the case with the successor
organisations. They are a lot more comfortable with trams which look

modern

than they are with traditional trams.

They have certainly been in no hurry to get them back on the road.

Whether those sentiments are consciously or sub-consciously held, their
actions on W-class trams over the last 20 years speak far louder than

any

humouring rhetoric to the contrary which they peddle to the public or

the

media when they are criticised.

Bob Murphy

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