Re: Re: " Windsplitters"

It's easy being verbose when you type at 75-85 wpm, Peter.

I'm writing a couple of truck articles at the moment and going over to
e-mails when I hear them come in to get a break from truck writing.
Performance Based Standards are too complex to be fun to write about.

What days do you have off during the week?

I've got to be in Bayswater next Wednesday at 10am. You off Tue or Wed
night?

Cheers,

Bob Murphy




----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:16 PM
Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: " Windsplitters"

Jeez Murph,you are a marvel,there is no shutting you up,not that I'd
want to,next time you are in the Smoke you'd better visit Barrow
St.and have a couple and we'll tell some lies.Regards Peter B.--- In
TramsDownUnder@y..., "IS Edit" <isedit@g...> wrote:

Don,

That is one very stylish car.

Those flywheel trolley buses ran for years in Germany and

Switzerland. They were called "Gyro Buses". They seemed to work fine.
The only one I ever rode on was in Trier or Trittenheim or some such
place on the Moselle River (I'd have to look it up on the map). The
wires did not go into downtown. After traversing the CBD the bus
pulled under the trolley wires which had pans on them. He released
the poles from inside and they went up and hit the pans which guided
them onto the wires.

I have no idea of the mass of the flywheel, but...

London Transport cut one tonne off the weight of a double decker

and it's fuel consumption improved by 10%. Put a big flywheel on a
bus and start and stop the extra weight every two blocks all day and
think what that will do to its power consumption, not to mention
increased road damage. And you have to make the chassis, brakes,
suspension et al stronger to carry the extra weight as well.

The problems with the flywheel and dual power trolley buses are

weight and complexity. In most applications the benefit isn't worth
the cost.

Cheers,

Bob Murphy
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Campbell
To: TramsDownUnder@y...
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: " Windsplitters"


Following all the recent talk about "pointed-front" Brisbane

cars, thought I'd do a search of the internet looking "McKeen cars"
sites and found quite a few. Interesting discovery was that one is
being restored at present in the US of A. McKeens car No.22 of the
Virginia & Truckee is being restored at the Nevada State Railroad
Museum at Carson City NV. A couple of pictures follow.

The engines used in McKeen's car were usually Hall-Scott

engines. They were a famous and respected San Francisco engine
builder who had connections to the Fageol bus and truck company and
also to the Twin Coach company.

I was looking for a picture of the McKeens car that was electric

but had no luck. I've seen a picture in a book somewhere of such a
car with a trolleypole.

Enjoyed the posts on gas powered buses. I remember several years

ago hearing that San Francisco had an experimental trolley bus fitted
with a fly-wheel. As the bus proceeded normally under wires the fly-
wheel was spun, and the energy stored could be used to move the bus
for distance of a couple of km beyond the end of the wire. Any info
out there? Was I spun a story?

Question: If the Americans call petrol "gas", what is the stuff

that comes out of American stoves called?

Regards,

DeeCee

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