Re: ARHS tram tour 31/8/02

John Fitzsimons
Thursday, August 8, 2002 6:05 AM

A Class (288?) or B if sufficient numbers.
Southbank Depot (0930), Bundoora, Wattle Park, East
Burwood, East Malvern, St. Kilda, Southbank(1700).
Lunch at Camberwell. Fare $30, ($35 after 20/8/02)
Booking forms from David 0412 616 023 7.00 - 10.00 pm
Competitions for prizes, books & videos for sale on
trip.

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:43:46 -0000
From: "pn1.rm" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Observations from the United States

Of course Herman! 1000 apologies; it was great to
spend some time
with you in Melbourne last year. My memory does
laspe occasionally.
I must admit I was really "tickled" to see my first
real live Texan.
It was in Hawaii in 1986. Boots. Buckle. Hat. I just
thought it was
something out of the movies! And much the same again
when I had a
stopover at Dallas-Fort Worth Airport waiting in the
American Eagle
lounge at "commuter" time.
We are a tolerant multicultural nation now but I
would expect that a
real live Texan (with boots, buckle and hat) hopping
on a Melbourne
tram would turn a head or two.
Paul in Melbourne

--- In TramsDownUnder@y..., "Herman R. Silbiger"
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wrote:
So, Paul, you don't consider me a "genuine Yank"?

Herman

"pn1.rm" wrote:

Wonder if some of our American readers might
make an occasional
posting on this list?
Would be good to see some observations of our
little colonial
outputs "down under" from the Greatest Nation in
the World.
And it would be nice one day to see a genuine
Yank coming to see
our
TramsDownUnder.
Paul in Melbourne

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:46:36 -0000
From: "pn1.rm" <[email protected]>
Subject: Enthusiasts "masquerading" as employees

One of the more offbeat aspects of our hobby has
been a few reported
incidents of enthusiasts masquerading as employees
and "reporting"
for duty.
Apparently where was an incident at Ballarat, 40
years ago this
month, where a keen young enthusiast dressed up in a
SEC uniform and
made out he was the rostered conductor on a tram.
There was a similar incident in Melbourne; at
Preston Depot if I
recall correctly.
Does anyone recall any of these, or other similar,
incidents?
Paul in Melbourne

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:29:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: re: Observations From the U.S.

Paul - This "yank" has been coming DownUnder to see
and ride Melbourne's
trams and trains every Southern summer for anywhere
from one month to
five months at a stretch for the past 12 years
(although even when there
I still call the trams streetcars, as trams in most
US lexicons are
thought of as little four wheel things in Europe -
anything bigger is
Light Rail - or as the rubber tired (tyred)
amusement and sightseeing
things a'la Universal Studios and Washington, DC.
Melbourne's cars are,
or at least were when they still had trolley poles,
much closer to an
American streetcar than they were to any other
country's trams). This
"yank" probably knows more about Melbourne's current
and recent past
trams and tram operations than many who live with
them every day. ++
I've stayed at many friends' homes in Melbourne and
other parts of Oz
and feel as at home there as I do in the US. I have
been called by more
than one person in Australia, "an honorary Aussie".
I've got an
open-ended visa in my passport. +++ I think
Melbourne has a fantastic
transportation system (or did before Jeff broke it
up), but that a lot
of it is now going to waste with absolutely stupid
management, and
absurd political-correctness. I feel sure that the
ill-fated experiment
with privatisation will collapse someday and all the
private operations
will again be reunited as one. At least I hope they
are. I must say
though that to me the streetcar system is much less
interesting now with
pantographs than it was with trolley poles. There
is just nothing like

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