Re: Digest Number 288/Quiz/TAN

David Young
Sunday, June 2, 2002 11:00 AM

Guess I want to be a pedantic bastard on this, so I'm going to blow the
claim for the ex-Sydney scrubber car as being the oldest continually running
in the world (can't remember the exact words of the claim) out of the water
by drawing your attention to

1. Much of the Manx Electric railway fleet on the Isle of Man, which date
from 1893-1899 and have been in continuous service since then. Even if you
count their age only from their re-trucking/remotoring in the early 1900s,
they still are older.

2. Ditto with the Isle of Man's Snaefell Mountain Railway cars, 5 out of 6
of which are 1895 bodies--retrucked and re-motored in the 1970s however.

3. The four cable/funicular cars of the Great Orme Tramway in Llandudno,
Wales, dating from about 1902-1903ish.

4. New Orleans 29, a former single-truck passenger car of 1898 which in
slightly altered form still runs as a work car to this day-I think it's been
a work car for more than 90 years but am not entirely sure.

There's a case to be made for suggesting that many of San Francisco's cable
cars be part of this exclusive clan, but I am not sure about this as most
were massively rebuilt by MUNI in the 1950s/1960s/1980s and as a result
there can hardly be a stick of wood in them that still dates from the
1887-1891 period commonly given as their build dates. Since the early 1980s,
some absolutely new cars have been replacing the older vehicles.

However, the ex-Sydney scrubber must surely be the oldest such vehicle in
Australia in continuous service.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Andrew D. Young

Anyone else got any thoughts?


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