Re: Re: Brisbane FM cars>
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Monday, September 3, 2001 4:29 AM
Roy,
Greg made good points on design refinements in those trams, as well. I'm
impressed.
But they aren't pretty.
Bob Murphy
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From: "roy winslow" <[email protected]>
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Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Brisbane FM cars>
include modern innovations in its trams and other elements of the system.
The FM class was, even after they were all retired, the most modern tram
vehicle (with the possible exception of the PCC bits of Melbourne 980) until
the Z's of the 1970's.
aforemention windows did indeed get bigger- have a look at the photo of 548
at Ipswitch Road Depot that was circulated yesterday.
(admittedly still hand operated and not seen as the equipment of choice to
PCC lovers) the later FM's were the smoothest and quietest mass-produced
trams to run in Oz. The doors may have been narrow compared to other drop
centre designs, but with four along each side, I doubt this was a problem.
Later FM's also had manually operated sliding doors, although they seem to
be designed with automation in mind, they were never plumbed as such due
possibly to the Brisbane climate.
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Greg made good points on design refinements in those trams, as well. I'm
impressed.
But they aren't pretty.
Bob Murphy
----- Original Message -----
From: "roy winslow" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Brisbane FM cars>
Dems Fighting Words!Until the day they closed, they were alway well maintained and attempted to
Brisbane was the last of the state capitals to finish with its trams.
include modern innovations in its trams and other elements of the system.
The FM class was, even after they were all retired, the most modern tram
vehicle (with the possible exception of the PCC bits of Melbourne 980) until
the Z's of the 1970's.
of 1964, the Brisbane tramways continued to refine the design. The
From the first FM, prototype 400 of 1938 until the last one 'Phoenix' 554
aforemention windows did indeed get bigger- have a look at the photo of 548
at Ipswitch Road Depot that was circulated yesterday.
gongs, self lapping air brakes, uphostered seating and RC2 contollers
With resilient wheels, double helical gears, flouro lighting, air assisted
(admittedly still hand operated and not seen as the equipment of choice to
PCC lovers) the later FM's were the smoothest and quietest mass-produced
trams to run in Oz. The doors may have been narrow compared to other drop
centre designs, but with four along each side, I doubt this was a problem.
Later FM's also had manually operated sliding doors, although they seem to
be designed with automation in mind, they were never plumbed as such due
possibly to the Brisbane climate.
NZ trams! (Over to our Kiwi boys for their comments!)
So lay off the FM's- pick on something else, like some of those darstedly
"just
Roy (Gotta Love the FM!) WinslowIn a message dated 1 Sept 2001 @ 1043 GMT, "Donald Campbell"[email protected] 09/03/01 12:00PM >>>
<[email protected]> wrote:Greetings all,
Roy asked for a picture of a Brisbane FM car.
Found this one on the net, and would think it's a picture of a car in
suchout of the box" condition. Handsome cars.
Regards,
Don C
I think R. T. Murphy was right. They remind me of one of those American
Hall-Scott "Windsplitter" gas motor cars (or "Doodlebugs" as we called
cars across the pond.) The only thing different was that the Hall-Scotts
had tinier porthole windows.
With a design like that, I can see why Brisbane folded early...hehehe
Milantram
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