Re: There is only two forms of real PCC's
dayoung007
Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:04 PM
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So by your definition, the hundreds and hundreds of Chicago USA PCCs
weren't PCCs until one-manned in the early 1950s? That's when they got
foot pedal control rather than the hand controls.
St. Louis Car Company had no difficulty recognizing Melbourne 980 as a
PCC when it had B3 trucks fabricated and shipped out for it.
On the other hand, apart from North America (ie US, Canada, Mexico)
and Europe (including the USSR's Asian empire), what other continent
had a car which had even the remotest connection with PCC technology?
That is to say, if you look elsewhere than N. America or Europe, there
wern't any PCCs, except for 980. So why exclude her? Hand controls?
(see above) Body style? Plenty of European PCC cars that didn't have
US body style or even US-derived body style. To me it's only the
ERPCC/TRC-patented equipment that makes the car a PCC, not the body.
You should post this provocation to the Yahoo PCC trolley group and
get their response--mind you, a good many of that group are members of
this group too.
Andrew D. Young
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Hi gangPCC
Now to really put the cat amongst the pigeons!
All this debate on PCC cars - the way I see it if you want a real
then look to the USA or Europe. To me a PCC is a car which uses PCC
trucks, control gear (i.e. foot pedals) and has a US body built to
the PCC style. E.G. St Louis Car Co or Pullman Standard. Don't me
wrong the Melbourne incarnations are ok but a pure PCC has to be
built using as much of the ERPCC spec. as possible
Torpedo
P.S. I hope all take this as some freindly ribbing
So by your definition, the hundreds and hundreds of Chicago USA PCCs
weren't PCCs until one-manned in the early 1950s? That's when they got
foot pedal control rather than the hand controls.
St. Louis Car Company had no difficulty recognizing Melbourne 980 as a
PCC when it had B3 trucks fabricated and shipped out for it.
On the other hand, apart from North America (ie US, Canada, Mexico)
and Europe (including the USSR's Asian empire), what other continent
had a car which had even the remotest connection with PCC technology?
That is to say, if you look elsewhere than N. America or Europe, there
wern't any PCCs, except for 980. So why exclude her? Hand controls?
(see above) Body style? Plenty of European PCC cars that didn't have
US body style or even US-derived body style. To me it's only the
ERPCC/TRC-patented equipment that makes the car a PCC, not the body.
You should post this provocation to the Yahoo PCC trolley group and
get their response--mind you, a good many of that group are members of
this group too.
Andrew D. Young
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