Re: Re: W4 672

I never paid much attention but thought W-2s had two shoes per wheel. They
stopped fine for me.

We were still using cast iron shoes in Bendigo but I seldom went fast enough
to need a heavy brake application so don't really know how they would have
been in emergencies.

Have you driven the modified W class with track brake in service yet, Greg?

Are they set up well. Can you operate the track brake independently of the
normal brake handle?

Bob Murphy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg King" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: W4 672

Actually,

it was standard proceedure, I'm sure you'll find Muni #1 and 130 with one
brake shoe per wheel and, if I'm not mistaken, they are 33". All single
truck and max traction cars had it that way too, even the H cars in

Adelaide

had it that way, in fact, the big streamlined H1 had two per wheel and it
had a reputation for not stopping, hence it's early retirement, funny
though, when I ran it (flat out) on the Glenelg line (I think I was

running

it when WGB turned up) it performed beautifully.

The W2's had one shoe and so on, it was only the advent of the #15 truck

in

Melb and Brisbane and the 12/13 in Sydney that "clasp brakes came into

their

own. I think the problem with those big W3 and W4 cars were their size,

cast

iron shoes and relatively fast, the braking, whilst not brilliant, was not
as bad as perceived (sorry Pete). It SEEMED really bad because the other
cars were so good, even today, Camberwell, has only the un modified B

class

and think they are fine, Preston and Southbank have a mixture of those and
the modified cars (actually, from 2052 onwards, they were built with the
better braking) and we absolutely hate those unmodified cars, I would

prefer

a Z1 in 40 degree heat than one of those shits!! End of surmon.

Jesus!

Wonder what idiot came up with that. I hope he didn't reproduce.

Bob Murphy

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