RE: I'm Back on the Group

Roy Winslow
Friday, December 14, 2001 12:01 AM

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I will take all the first day shots you can give me- just gotta love those FM's! The Toowong Line used to be Brisbane's first day photo route of choice due to its proximity to the workshops and its scenic 'spendour'. However, by the time the 8 Phoenix cars were finished the line had closed (at the end of 1962 as a result of the destruction of the Paddington Depot by fire- 65 trams were destroyed). Only the portion of rounte along Milton Road remained for access to the workshops.

Although my wife will absolutely anihalate me, put me down for one of the St.Pete's cars Greg! I have seen a few write ups of other cars, namely the R and the Z and they rate very well by all accounts. How much pain and anguish (and dish washing) is it going to cost me?

Roy

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg King [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] I'm Back on the Group

Hi Roy,

Yes, I think it was Stafford, Neil Elfich took the shots. I agonise over whether the Phoenix or the Sydney R/R1 cars were best, the Sydney cars were better built, The poor old Phoenix was never even primed, they were built to be scrapped but, I loved em too, they are still a handsome car and well suited for what they did, superior comfort, quietness and the moved along too. Ive got other first day shot of some of the other members of the class if you would like to see some more.

By the way, I rather liked the ads, it gave them some more colour but, I guess I liked them both ways. Can I put you down for one or more of them when I release the "O" gauge model by St. Petersburg next year??

Greg

So you didn't forget me huh Greg?

Splendid shots of her first day, sometime in mid-December 1963. I know one shot (Bris550a) was taken at Bardon Terminus, but where was the second shot taken (Bris550), Stafford Terminus? Were you the photographer, or was it before your time? She looks great without Cinzano Ads emblazoned all over her.

I still think Phoenix cars were one of the most attractive tram cars built for Oz, small passenger windows included. Remember that the sun shines in Brisbane a lot more than in most parts of North America or Melbourne for that matter, so the small windows were suitable indeed in an age of no air conditioning. Just sit on a new-age bus with sealed full-height windows when the sun is booming down at ya' in the middle of summer and you will see the foresight of those designers way back when...

Viva la Phoenix Tram! FM car haters need not respond...

Roy

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