Re: Re: Melbourne Historic Fleet - thoughts
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Thursday, December 6, 2001 9:17 AM
The salient point is that there are several different mindsets about city
living. The one I am in/was in revelled in it and liked being on the streets
and in the buzz, and you could be part of that buzz on vehicles like cable
cars and open centre platform Ws.
The other kind of mentality, the insulares, doesn't get it. They repudiate
the urban environment or erect barriers to it.
One would instinctively gravitate towards cable cars, old open trams, the
other towards air-conditioned, glassed in, sealed things which insulate them
from the buzz of the city.
The latter would never get it about the view I and some other people on this
list have been putting forward and which you don't seem to grasp.
Never the twain shall meet. Perhaps.
Most people are somewhere in the middle and if you make it fun for them to
get out of their cars, they might. On sheer utility, it's doubtful.
Get it?
Bob Murphy
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From: "Bill Bolton" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Melbourne Historic Fleet - thoughts
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living. The one I am in/was in revelled in it and liked being on the streets
and in the buzz, and you could be part of that buzz on vehicles like cable
cars and open centre platform Ws.
The other kind of mentality, the insulares, doesn't get it. They repudiate
the urban environment or erect barriers to it.
One would instinctively gravitate towards cable cars, old open trams, the
other towards air-conditioned, glassed in, sealed things which insulate them
from the buzz of the city.
The latter would never get it about the view I and some other people on this
list have been putting forward and which you don't seem to grasp.
Never the twain shall meet. Perhaps.
Most people are somewhere in the middle and if you make it fun for them to
get out of their cars, they might. On sheer utility, it's doubtful.
Get it?
Bob Murphy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bolton" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Melbourne Historic Fleet - thoughts
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:55:56 +1100, Bob wrote:fasterThe correlation between socio-economic class and travel times was the
youthe public transport line in relation to the use of motor cars the more
nogot riders who had alternatives not flat broke losers or battlers with
thatoption. The corollary of higher socio-economic class of passengers is
arethe "higher" ones were better able to bend the political system to their
will and they become an effective pro-public transport lobby group.
Thanks.I'm talking about a different mindset, Bill. I don't know whether you
trying to have a lend of me or you just don 't get it.
I'm just trying to sort through the invective about your world view to
understand what are the salient points of your contribution to the
discussion.....
Cheers,
Bill
Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia
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