Revised TramsDownUnder FAQ
Peter D. Ehrlich
Friday, November 30, 2001 1:57 PM
[Note: This message is also included in the Files section of
TramsDownUnder.]
Hi, gang!
From the beginning of this list on August 21, [TramsDownUnder] has had 83
members join. I'd like to welcome all of you on board!
Please find listed below a copy of the revised FAQ's (Frequently Asked
Questions). If you still have questions after reading this, please do not
hesitate to email me privately. This FAQ will also be kept in a folder in
the Files section of the list.
Peter Ehrlich (aka Milantram)
email: [email protected]
WELCOME TO TramsDownUnder!
The following are the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) and other useful
information regarding the [TramsDownUnder] Mailing List.
Contents:
* About TramsDownUnder
* How to (Un)subscribe & Posting Info
* Courtesies & Common Sense (a.k.a. "the Rules")
* Problems & Solutions
* Monthly Announcements
* TramsDownUnder Web Sites & Homepages
* Special Thanks
* ABOUT TramsDownUnder:
This is a discussion group pertaining to trams, trolleys, light rail and
urban transport in Australia and New Zealand. Included are such locations as
Melbourne, Bendigo, Ballarat, Sydney, Christchurch and many more. Feel
free to join in the discussion at any time. Some of the topics that I hope
we will touch on include:
The great tramway system in Melbourne
Other systems in Australia and New Zealand
New systems in Australia, such as in Sydney
Electric commuter rail
Trolleybuses and buses
Government policy toward urban transport, and privatization
Historical aspects
Tramway museums
Models of Australia and New Zealand trams
Ex-Melbourne trams preserved and operating in the United States and
elsewhere
TramsDownUnder was unofficially born and in operation on Tuesday, August 21,
2001, and has an average of approximately 83 members. We average about 275
posts per month.
This list is owned and managed by Peter Ehrlich [aka Milantram]. You can
contact the list owner by emailing him at anytime at [email protected]
or [email protected]
* TramsDownUnder SUBSCRIPTION & POSTING INFO
Although the message archives, files and photos are public, only subscribed
members will have access to respond to posts on TramsDownUnder. Our server
is yahoogroups.com, a web based mailing list service. To see the services
offered or to make changes to your subscription, please visit:
http;//www.yahoogroups.com/community/TramsDownUnder
The way to (UN)subscribe is as follows: Send an e-mail to
[email protected]
To CONTACT the list owner, email either [email protected]
OR [email protected].
There are three basic methods of receiving group posts:
1. INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS. Each message posted goes into you e-mail inbox.
Any attachments (JPEG picture attachments are the only ones permitted on
this list) will also appear with the message.
2. DAILY DIGEST. ThIS method compiles the day's posts and sends them in
one convenient e-mail instead of separately. This cuts down on the volume
of posts you receive, but it also requires that you go into the web site to
in order to view picture/JPEG attachments.
3. NO MAIL. This method means you get no e-mail messages. This is
especially convenient if you're going on vacation (for example) and you
don't want your mail to pile up to be looked at on your return. This also
avoids the phenomenon of "Bounced mail", usually caused overstuffed inboxes.
It is also preferred to unsubscribing and then resubscribing.
Changes to these can be made by visiting the web site at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/join?referer=1
Also available via the web site is archived versions of the digests.
* COURTESIES & COMMON SENSE:
Please note the following points of netiquette for our mailing list:
* Yes, this mailing list is about Australia and New Zealand trams and urban
public transport, but sometimes our conversations stray off topic. If you
are talking about ANYTHING that *isn't* related, please indicate that in the
subject line by typing "TAN" (short for tangent) or "OT" (off-topic) in the
subject line. That way, those who wish to skip the non-TramsDownUnder thread
can do so easily. If you notice there are 5+ TANS on the list, please take
it from the list and email the person privately.
* THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! Please keep your posts clean. I don't necessarily
mean the language, but cutting & pasting the email you're referring to,
remove the footers, etc...In other words, avoid adding one sentence to a
message which goes on with everyone else's comments. Keep them short and
succinct...Mostly, this affects listmembers who get their messages as
"Individual E-Mails", where the trend is to just add one's own message to
what was before without deleting any of the copied messages, footers, etc.
So please be careful.
* Watch the subject line. When you post and the subject line no longer has
any reference in regard to your topic, please change the subject line to
whatever you are talking about.
* ATTACHMENT POLICY: "JPEG" picture attachments are welcome. However,
please send only one picture per post, and no more than five posts with
picture attachments at a time. TEXT file attachments are PROHIBITED!!! If
you must use a text file to state a point, COPY it and PASTE it into your
message, or indicate the URL in the body of the message, or copy it onto an
e-mail (but don't send it) and enter it in the "Files" section as a "Create
Text File" message.
* FILES: You can also upload pertinent files--text or pictures--to the list
by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/files/
Then click on "Add File", "Create Text File", or "Create folder".
With regard to text files, it is best to just compose an E-mail, copy from a
MS Word or other program text, then click on "Create Text File". The reason
for this is many listmembers don't have MS Word or other specific
word-processing programs on their PCs and can't open the file.
* PHOTOS: This is a new section for Yahoogroups where you can add your own
photos or photo albums for all members to see. You can upload these to the
list by going to:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/lst
Then click on "Add Photo" or "Create album", and follow the instructions.
* DATABASE: You can access TramsDownUnder's database by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/database
Only the listowner (Milantram) can create a database. If you have an idea
for a database, please contact Milantram and he will discuss it with you
privately.
* Please keep chain letters, urban legends and virus warnings limited to
your private mailouts only, not on TramsDownUnder.
* This is a private list. The only person with access to the full list of
email addresses is the listowner. I don't like spam either, so I won't give
out your email address and please don't give out mine!
* Last but definitively NOT least....the only real "rule" on TramsDownUnder
is that you do not bash one another. Mud slinging and flaming is not
allowed. Please allow everyone to speak their mind in a friendly way, and
respect the fact that we can't all agree all of the time. If we all had the
same opinion on every topic all of the time, this list would get extremely
boring very fast. However, if you are having a problem with someone or
something, please write the list owner (Milantram) PRIVATELY at
[email protected] or [email protected] for help in
solving it. Please do not create an uproar on the list first. Most times,
these issues can be resolved immediately behind the scenes without
disrupting the flow of the list.
* PROBLEMS & SOLUTIONS:
This is an adult list, and therefore monitoring the list isn't desirable.
However, if a member needs to be addressed for any reason, that will be done
by the list owner only (Milantram). If you receive any other email,
privately or publicly, which you consider offensive or inappropriate, please
bring it to the attention of the list owner immediately to be dealt with
accordingly.
Everyone on TramsDownUnder is welcome to post, respond or create their own
messages to express their opinions about tramways and urban transport in
Australia/New Zealand and the history involved. No member has special
status or preferred treatment over others. If you are new to the list,
please jump right into the conversation and get to know your fellow
listmembers!
Mr. Val Golding <[email protected]> is assistant moderator of this group.
He has all of the privileges of the listowner (Milantram) and will be
running the group in the absence of the listowner. He is here to help you
and answer questions.
* MONTHLY ANNOUNCEMENTS:
On a somewhat regular basis, a monthly announcement will be sent to the list
by Peter (Milantram, the listowner). This will be entitled "ALL PLEASE READ"
in the subject line, and will contain information such as changes to the
list, new features, introducing new members, etc. Please take a moment to
quickly read it, it's provided for your benefit.... and if no one reads it,
I'm going to have to change the title. :-)
* TramsDownUnder WEB SITES, FILES & HOMEPAGES TO CHECK OUT
From Peter Ehrlich:
Peter's Pix--San Francisco Muni Pictures, and much more
(Photo albums containing pictures of Muni PCC streetcars, US and foreign
transit, railroads, etc.)
http://community.webshots.com/user/milantram;
<[email protected]>
From Joe Thompson:
The Cable Car Home Page
(A site about cable cars all over the world, including Australia and New
Zealand.)
http://www.geocities.com/cable_car_guy/cablecar.html;
<[email protected]>
From "nswtramways":
Australian Trams
(The best overall site for Australian Trams.)
http://www.railpage.org.au/tram
From "melb_tram":
Ballarat Tramway Museum
(The site for the tramway museum in Ballarat. Has over 200 links to
tramways all over the world>
http://www.btm.org.au
From Andrew Cox and Peter Ehrlich:
Citadis Commercials (3 clips) (Windows or Macintosh)
(A site for viewing three commercials for Melbourne's new Yarra Trams
Citadis
LRVs. To download Windows Media Player, go to
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/download/default.asp
Site URL:
http://members.optushome.com.au/tramways/files/
You can add your own web page or appropriate TramsDownUnder-related web
pages to this list by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/bookmarks/
*SPECIAL THANKS TO:
...... each and every member of [TramsDownUnder], for helping to make this a
fun, interesting and entertaining list. Without you, all of the hard work
that is put into this list would be useless.
If you have any questions, suggestions, corrections, or comments regarding
this FAQ or [TramsDownUnder] in general, please email Peter Ehrlich directly
at [email protected] or [email protected].
Thanks,
Milantram (Peter Ehrlich)
TramsDownUnder listowner
[Note: This message is also included in the Files section of
TramsDownUnder.]
Rev. 2 -- 30 November 2001
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
TramsDownUnder.]
Hi, gang!
From the beginning of this list on August 21, [TramsDownUnder] has had 83
members join. I'd like to welcome all of you on board!
Please find listed below a copy of the revised FAQ's (Frequently Asked
Questions). If you still have questions after reading this, please do not
hesitate to email me privately. This FAQ will also be kept in a folder in
the Files section of the list.
Peter Ehrlich (aka Milantram)
email: [email protected]
WELCOME TO TramsDownUnder!
The following are the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) and other useful
information regarding the [TramsDownUnder] Mailing List.
Contents:
* About TramsDownUnder
* How to (Un)subscribe & Posting Info
* Courtesies & Common Sense (a.k.a. "the Rules")
* Problems & Solutions
* Monthly Announcements
* TramsDownUnder Web Sites & Homepages
* Special Thanks
* ABOUT TramsDownUnder:
This is a discussion group pertaining to trams, trolleys, light rail and
urban transport in Australia and New Zealand. Included are such locations as
Melbourne, Bendigo, Ballarat, Sydney, Christchurch and many more. Feel
free to join in the discussion at any time. Some of the topics that I hope
we will touch on include:
The great tramway system in Melbourne
Other systems in Australia and New Zealand
New systems in Australia, such as in Sydney
Electric commuter rail
Trolleybuses and buses
Government policy toward urban transport, and privatization
Historical aspects
Tramway museums
Models of Australia and New Zealand trams
Ex-Melbourne trams preserved and operating in the United States and
elsewhere
TramsDownUnder was unofficially born and in operation on Tuesday, August 21,
2001, and has an average of approximately 83 members. We average about 275
posts per month.
This list is owned and managed by Peter Ehrlich [aka Milantram]. You can
contact the list owner by emailing him at anytime at [email protected]
or [email protected]
* TramsDownUnder SUBSCRIPTION & POSTING INFO
Although the message archives, files and photos are public, only subscribed
members will have access to respond to posts on TramsDownUnder. Our server
is yahoogroups.com, a web based mailing list service. To see the services
offered or to make changes to your subscription, please visit:
http;//www.yahoogroups.com/community/TramsDownUnder
The way to (UN)subscribe is as follows: Send an e-mail to
[email protected]
To CONTACT the list owner, email either [email protected]
OR [email protected].
There are three basic methods of receiving group posts:
1. INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS. Each message posted goes into you e-mail inbox.
Any attachments (JPEG picture attachments are the only ones permitted on
this list) will also appear with the message.
2. DAILY DIGEST. ThIS method compiles the day's posts and sends them in
one convenient e-mail instead of separately. This cuts down on the volume
of posts you receive, but it also requires that you go into the web site to
in order to view picture/JPEG attachments.
3. NO MAIL. This method means you get no e-mail messages. This is
especially convenient if you're going on vacation (for example) and you
don't want your mail to pile up to be looked at on your return. This also
avoids the phenomenon of "Bounced mail", usually caused overstuffed inboxes.
It is also preferred to unsubscribing and then resubscribing.
Changes to these can be made by visiting the web site at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/join?referer=1
Also available via the web site is archived versions of the digests.
* COURTESIES & COMMON SENSE:
Please note the following points of netiquette for our mailing list:
* Yes, this mailing list is about Australia and New Zealand trams and urban
public transport, but sometimes our conversations stray off topic. If you
are talking about ANYTHING that *isn't* related, please indicate that in the
subject line by typing "TAN" (short for tangent) or "OT" (off-topic) in the
subject line. That way, those who wish to skip the non-TramsDownUnder thread
can do so easily. If you notice there are 5+ TANS on the list, please take
it from the list and email the person privately.
* THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! Please keep your posts clean. I don't necessarily
mean the language, but cutting & pasting the email you're referring to,
remove the footers, etc...In other words, avoid adding one sentence to a
message which goes on with everyone else's comments. Keep them short and
succinct...Mostly, this affects listmembers who get their messages as
"Individual E-Mails", where the trend is to just add one's own message to
what was before without deleting any of the copied messages, footers, etc.
So please be careful.
* Watch the subject line. When you post and the subject line no longer has
any reference in regard to your topic, please change the subject line to
whatever you are talking about.
* ATTACHMENT POLICY: "JPEG" picture attachments are welcome. However,
please send only one picture per post, and no more than five posts with
picture attachments at a time. TEXT file attachments are PROHIBITED!!! If
you must use a text file to state a point, COPY it and PASTE it into your
message, or indicate the URL in the body of the message, or copy it onto an
e-mail (but don't send it) and enter it in the "Files" section as a "Create
Text File" message.
* FILES: You can also upload pertinent files--text or pictures--to the list
by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/files/
Then click on "Add File", "Create Text File", or "Create folder".
With regard to text files, it is best to just compose an E-mail, copy from a
MS Word or other program text, then click on "Create Text File". The reason
for this is many listmembers don't have MS Word or other specific
word-processing programs on their PCs and can't open the file.
* PHOTOS: This is a new section for Yahoogroups where you can add your own
photos or photo albums for all members to see. You can upload these to the
list by going to:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/lst
Then click on "Add Photo" or "Create album", and follow the instructions.
* DATABASE: You can access TramsDownUnder's database by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/database
Only the listowner (Milantram) can create a database. If you have an idea
for a database, please contact Milantram and he will discuss it with you
privately.
* Please keep chain letters, urban legends and virus warnings limited to
your private mailouts only, not on TramsDownUnder.
* This is a private list. The only person with access to the full list of
email addresses is the listowner. I don't like spam either, so I won't give
out your email address and please don't give out mine!
* Last but definitively NOT least....the only real "rule" on TramsDownUnder
is that you do not bash one another. Mud slinging and flaming is not
allowed. Please allow everyone to speak their mind in a friendly way, and
respect the fact that we can't all agree all of the time. If we all had the
same opinion on every topic all of the time, this list would get extremely
boring very fast. However, if you are having a problem with someone or
something, please write the list owner (Milantram) PRIVATELY at
[email protected] or [email protected] for help in
solving it. Please do not create an uproar on the list first. Most times,
these issues can be resolved immediately behind the scenes without
disrupting the flow of the list.
* PROBLEMS & SOLUTIONS:
This is an adult list, and therefore monitoring the list isn't desirable.
However, if a member needs to be addressed for any reason, that will be done
by the list owner only (Milantram). If you receive any other email,
privately or publicly, which you consider offensive or inappropriate, please
bring it to the attention of the list owner immediately to be dealt with
accordingly.
Everyone on TramsDownUnder is welcome to post, respond or create their own
messages to express their opinions about tramways and urban transport in
Australia/New Zealand and the history involved. No member has special
status or preferred treatment over others. If you are new to the list,
please jump right into the conversation and get to know your fellow
listmembers!
Mr. Val Golding <[email protected]> is assistant moderator of this group.
He has all of the privileges of the listowner (Milantram) and will be
running the group in the absence of the listowner. He is here to help you
and answer questions.
* MONTHLY ANNOUNCEMENTS:
On a somewhat regular basis, a monthly announcement will be sent to the list
by Peter (Milantram, the listowner). This will be entitled "ALL PLEASE READ"
in the subject line, and will contain information such as changes to the
list, new features, introducing new members, etc. Please take a moment to
quickly read it, it's provided for your benefit.... and if no one reads it,
I'm going to have to change the title. :-)
* TramsDownUnder WEB SITES, FILES & HOMEPAGES TO CHECK OUT
From Peter Ehrlich:
Peter's Pix--San Francisco Muni Pictures, and much more
(Photo albums containing pictures of Muni PCC streetcars, US and foreign
transit, railroads, etc.)
http://community.webshots.com/user/milantram;
<[email protected]>
From Joe Thompson:
The Cable Car Home Page
(A site about cable cars all over the world, including Australia and New
Zealand.)
http://www.geocities.com/cable_car_guy/cablecar.html;
<[email protected]>
From "nswtramways":
Australian Trams
(The best overall site for Australian Trams.)
http://www.railpage.org.au/tram
From "melb_tram":
Ballarat Tramway Museum
(The site for the tramway museum in Ballarat. Has over 200 links to
tramways all over the world>
http://www.btm.org.au
From Andrew Cox and Peter Ehrlich:
Citadis Commercials (3 clips) (Windows or Macintosh)
(A site for viewing three commercials for Melbourne's new Yarra Trams
Citadis
LRVs. To download Windows Media Player, go to
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/download/default.asp
Site URL:
http://members.optushome.com.au/tramways/files/
You can add your own web page or appropriate TramsDownUnder-related web
pages to this list by going to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TramsDownUnder/bookmarks/
*SPECIAL THANKS TO:
...... each and every member of [TramsDownUnder], for helping to make this a
fun, interesting and entertaining list. Without you, all of the hard work
that is put into this list would be useless.
If you have any questions, suggestions, corrections, or comments regarding
this FAQ or [TramsDownUnder] in general, please email Peter Ehrlich directly
at [email protected] or [email protected].
Thanks,
Milantram (Peter Ehrlich)
TramsDownUnder listowner
[Note: This message is also included in the Files section of
TramsDownUnder.]
Rev. 2 -- 30 November 2001
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/