John Fitzsimons wrote <I always thought that this was Ballarat Bertie>

Definitely Carlton. The gentleman who "always has wan at eleven" was one Sam Griffin, a regular visitor at McVeigh's Upper Yarra Hotel. Sometime in the 1890s a young Melbourne artist happened to be in the bar when Sam came in for his "wan at eleven". The artist made a quick sketch and later sold a full colour version to Carlton Brewery who used it in their poster. It was soon parodied into "I allus has eleven at wan".

It was again parodied during Victoria's referendums on prohibition. A poster shows a forlorn version of Sam Griffin in a bar drinking from a cup, with the pump handles now labelled Tea and Coffee. The poster proclaims "Vote No. Prevent This".

This info from Brian Carroll's book "The Australian Poster Album" published in 1974.

A bit OT, but relevant to proceedings usually associated with Dec 31.

Roger Greenwood

Some random observations:
Re 1d "Ah allus have one at 11" - I always thought that was Ballarat Bertie allus having one at 11 assuming there was once a Ballarat brewery. Ballarat being a gold mining town I would have thought it had its own brewery but have never found where it was located.
Re 1e the Rosella factory opposite Melbourne High, I have being travelling up and down past there since the mid 1960's on suburban trains and can honestly say I have never noticed any pleasant or unpleasant smells coming from there. I have travelled on trains from Taits to present day so hard to explain!!!
4 Yarra Street is now history. It has been demolished and being replaced by condo's as our US friends would say.
re 1j The Hobart trolleybus route past Cascades brewery was "Strickland Avenue" with short working "Cascades". The outer section along with an unfortunate trolleybus was destroyed in bushfires prior to final closure of the Hobart system.
Also a nice photo of North Fitzroy depot when new in messages 5072. Thanks Ian.
My worst Aroma Street although a long way from any electric tram or train lines is the cigarette factory in Chesterville Road Moorabbin East. Bus route 767 goes past en route to Southland and is always peg on the nose time. How people can live in the houses near there is a mystery to me!!!
Thankfully my journeys on 767 are mainly north towards Box Hill rather than south towards Southland.
If anyone has knowledge of tram/electric transport systems in northern Brazil north of Rio please advise. I may be going there middle of 09. ThaNKS in advance for any info.
For what it is worth.
John Fitzsimons

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