Re: Re: ALL PLEASE READ--CURRENT BUS DISCUSSION TO END NOW!!!
  Brent Efford

Yes ­ I only got a brief glimpse of it in the container at Ferrymead a few
days ago, but I guess that is the one. I am only a visiting member at
Ferrymead ­ I live in Wellington ­ so I don¹t have much idea about time to
operation, but I would guess years.

Cheers,

Brent Efford


On 13/6/06 5:53 PM, "Bernard Stahr" bangroad@...> wrote:

> Hi Brent,

>

> Was it your group which acquired the rotary converter from Glen Huntly depot?

> When I posted these shots in Oct. 05, no one knew where they'd gone. I had

> heard that a preservation group in NZ had taken them. Yours? How far from

> operation is it?

>

> Bernard

>

> http://tdu.to/ConverterGHcopy.jpg

>

> http://tdu.to/GH_Converter_rearcopy.jpg

>

> http://tdu.to/GH_Convertercopy.jpg

>

> On 13/06/2006, at 7:42 AM, Brent Efford wrote:

>

>> While very appreciative of Peter¹s efforts as listowner (and of the tour

>> that he treated Dennis Lytton & myself to while on a recent visit to San

>> Francisco) I must say I tend to agree with David ­ it goes for Kiwis, too

>> (not that there are many of us on this list). This is only a hobby list,

>> after all. I delete many TDU messages largely unread, making a judgement

>> based on the subject line or the person sending ­ and everyone else can do

>> the same.

>>

>> My tramway interest includes nearly 45 years in the Tramway Historical

>> Society in Christchurch. As well as electric, steam, horse and cable trams,

>> the THS owns a large and varied fleet of trolley and diesel buses ­ including

>> a London double-decker ­ and is planning to build a steam power station, has

>> recently imported a Melbourne rotary converter, etc, etc. That breadth of

>> vision of what constitutes ³tramway history² is what Paul was referring to

>> below, and could perhaps be emulated in cyberspace.

>>

>> As an aside, it is not an ³American² thing - I also belong to the US-based

>> LRPPro Yahoo group, for those with a professional / advocacy / academic

>> involvement with modern light rail. Despite this prime focus it often wanders

>> into trolley and railroad history, bus technologies, politics, etc, thanks to

>> the light-handed regulation of the listowner in Austin, Texas. As both a

>> hobbyist and an activist light rail advocate, I consider it is much better

>> for it. (See http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRPPro/ or the associated

>> website http://www.lightrailnow.org/ ).

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>>

>> Brent Efford

>>  

>> Co-ordinator, Transport 2000+ NZ

>> Winston Churchill Fellow 2003 (WELL-TRACK US transit study tour)

>> NZ Area Officer, Light Rail Transit Assn

>>

>>

>>

>> On 12/6/06 9:35 PM, "David Revis" revis@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Well, my objection is the way we are all being treated.  I think our revered

>>> listowner has to come to terms with a bunch of Aussies.  Yes, he is entirely

>>> entitled to rein in discussions that have ferrally gone over the top, but

>>> fro what I have heard informally, there is a simmering resentment about the

>>> seemingly increasing number of "All please reads".  Aussies do not like

>>> being bossed around and all these "Thal shall not's"  are becoming

>>> counter-productive.  Such strong language may be part of American life but

>>> not the way it's done over here, sport.

>>>

>>> David, in sorrow, & in Brisbane.

>>>

>>>  

>>>

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>  

>>>> From:  Paul Nicholson mailto:pn1@bigpond.com   

>>>>  

>>>> To:TramsDownUnder@...  

>>>>  

>>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:29 PM

>>>>  

>>>> Subject: [TramsDownUnder] Re: ALL PLEASE  READ--CURRENT BUS DISCUSSION TO

>>>> END NOW!!!

>>>>  

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>>  

>>>>

>>>> I don't want to labour the point either but one thing I believe  we

>>>> should avoid is becoming too narrow. Forty years ago, I was one  of

>>>> several enthusiasts who started a rail magazine to cover topics  and

>>>> angles that were "outside the square". It was a different era  and

>>>> young people (such as us) did not want to be constrained by  the

>>>> comformist views of the day - and the transport world too - both  the

>>>> operators and the enthusiast fraternity.

>>>>

>>>> We have touched on  this briefly in the past when we have discussed the

>>>> "expectations" of the  men of the MMTB.

>>>>

>>>> Admittedly our magazine did not include trams (that  were well covered

>>>> by Electric Traction, Trolley Wire and other magazines)  but we

>>>> challenged the "steam is king" mentality of the era and also  included

>>>> spot for buses on the back page! (Not many people were interested  in

>>>> buses in 1966 and those that were were shunned by many tram  enthusiasts).

>>>>

>>>> Times have changed thank goodness.

>>>>

>>>> Sure the  common bond that brings us together on TDU is trams and we

>>>> should not  forget that but I don't see any harm in loosening up a

>>>> little every now and  again. I am sure even our esteemed listowner

>>>> would have been impressed by  the informality amond the locals during

>>>> his visits down under. I recall the  TDU "session" at the Duke of Kent

>>>> earlier this year was very relaxed,  convivial and enjoyable.

>>>>

>>>> Paul in Melbourne

>>>>

>>>> PS: For those who are  old enough to remember our magazine "Green Over

>>>> Red" we are planning a 40th  anniversary get together on 11 August;

>>>> everyone is welcome. Please contact  me off list for further information.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

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