Yes, it is good to see you back Richard. Brings back happy memories of our
afternoon together back in 2022.
Cheers
Ron
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 5:23 AM 'Richard Youl' via TramsDownUnder <
tramsdownunder@...> wrote:
> 1) Unfortunately the standard of Melbourne tram driving is frequently
> “rough as guts”. I make a point of walking through my G C trams when doing
> 70km/h on reservation without holding on, including starting and stopping.
> I hang on in Melbourne as though I was on a bus.
>
> Nevertheless most Sydney drivers are ‘Nervous Nellies’. I have encountered
> just the odd one who would drive as assertively as myself. Incidentally I
> Never had a fall on any tram I drove, but did not muck around either.
>
> 2) Quite a few city stops have been removed in Melbourne but in my opinion
> to save the cost of building raised platforms. The excuse was to speed
> trams but as we often see in my videos, the trams still stop for traffic
> lights where stops used to be, especially in the city.
>
> 3) The question should be ‘how many seats should be sacrificed to save a
> few seconds loading at a handful of city and other busy stops?’ This isn’t
> Europe where no seats would still get passengers as less people own cars,
> or can take them to town.
>
> The lack of end doors on E class is perpetuating the error of Ws where
> people won’t stand at the car ends for fear of getting trapped and unable
> to get off. The Z3 learnt from that mistake on the Z1 and Z2, fitting the
> little end door.
>
> Take these few postings as rare one-offs. I have more to do than argue
> with some people who know everything.
>
> Richard
>
> > On 19 Mar 2024, at 5:12 pm, 'David Batho' via TramsDownUnder <
>tramsdownunder@...> wrote:
> >
> > Observations:
> >
> > 1) Melbourne trams seem to be driven with more ‘verve’, accelerating
> away from stops quite rapidly, whilst Sydney seems to be a little more
> relaxed in style, with no sharp acceleration. Is this because the CAF trams
> cannot do this, or because the drivers are instructed to drive that way (to
> avoid the possibly of passengers falling over?)?
> >
> > 2) Stop spacing seems to be roughly about the same in Sydney and
> Melbourne. Is there a standard for this?
> >
> > 3) How much of a difference does the numbers of doors available for
> loading and unloading make to transit times when comparing Sydney and
> Melbourne? [I’m thinking of comparisons like toast racks v saloon cars, or
> Bradifield cars (In multi-door form) v later single-deckers, or single v
> double deckers, in Sydney, or Tait/Swing Door v Harris in Melbourne.]
> >
> > Thanks for this, Richard.
> >
> > Good to see you back and posting.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 19 Mar 2024, at 2:15 pm, 'Richard Youl' via TramsDownUnder <
>tramsdownunder@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> With the interest shown in the 96 vs L2 video, I decided to see which
> city street has the faster trams. The Sydney trip uses a video different
> from last time.
> >>
> >> Which City Tram is Faster? George St or Swanston St?
> >> https://youtu.be/6cFyHG5SOWM
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
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