PTA is actually pretty cluey and have already looked at a tram system for
Perth. This comes from a different direction - City of Stirling as advised
by Prof Peter Newman of Curtin University who has been pushing this for a
while, having moved on from his earlier tram advocacy. He's their expert.
WA is not subject to the restrictions of the National Heavy Vehicle
Regulator, notably regarding weight and length of buses, so is free to
exercise a bit more scope, for better or worse.
Tony P
On Monday, 25 September 2023 at 16:50:08 UTC+10 Mark Skinner wrote:
> Sort of yes. However, governments have degraded their expertise so much
> that they have zero in house expertise in reality, especially when dealing
> with anything new. So, previously, the public, through taxes, paid for
> in-house knowledge of transport technology. Now, that in-house knowledge no
> longer exists. The specialists were "let go". So now, up comes something
> new. It sounds plausible, and it is a bus, so it IS plausible, so how to
> evaluate it? Previously, ask the in-house experts. Now, with no in-house
> expertise, a trial is also reasonable. So, who should pay? Why not the
> governments that shoved expertise out the door, often contemptuously? So,
> while yeah, this is over the top, it's the consequence of decisions made by
> governments and endorsed by taxpayers in voting for those governments
> repeatedly.
>
> Mark Skinner
>
> On Mon, 25 Sept 2023, 12:36 pm Tony Galloway, a...@...> wrote:
>
>> Grifters are gunna grift….
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 24 Sep 2023, at 19:30, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the City of Stirling has received funding from the Federal govt for
>> a business case and trial.
>>
>> Tony P
>>
>> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 17:32:12 UTC+10 Matthew Geier wrote:
>>
>>> This is the same vehicle the promo pictures show the body swinging into
>>> the adjacent traffic lane as it 'crosses over'?
>>>
>>> Over the last few days I rode the 'old style' trackless tram in two
>>> different Swiss cities - Hess biarticulated trolley buses. Also equipped
>>> with a fair capacity battery, if they lose the poles, they just keep going
>>> to the next location that has 'pole locator hats' on the overhead. (Which
>>> may be the terminal loop).
>>> They were also using them on non-electrified routes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Sept 2023 at 08:01, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A demonstration "trackless tram" from China has arrived in Perth for
>>>> testing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stirling.wa.gov.au/your-city/news/2023/september-%281%29/trackless-tram-arrives-in-stirling
>>>>
>>>> Tony P
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