Re: Israel Railways to switch to entirely double-deck fleet
  TP

This video from a German rail enthusiast shows that the Tel Aviv Red Line
is really taking off and looks likely to be joining the Jerusalem line as,
on a passengers per route km basis, the most successful new light rail
projects in the world. Also visible at the beginning is the typical German
push-pull double deck interurban/intercity train manufactured by
Bombardier, but in this case propelled by diesel-electric until
electrification in progress is extended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9SfrKIiFAk

Tony P

On Wednesday, 30 August 2023 at 19:05:38 UTC+10 TP wrote:

> The first line of the Tel Aviv light rail (Red Line) has opened. There

> will be three lines. The Red line uses coupled 30 metre CRRC trams, the

> Green will use Alstoms and the Purple CAFs. The Red line is 24 km long, of

> which 12 km is underground. There are 34 stops, of which 10 are

> underground. The trams are driven by line-of-sight on surface, but are GoA2

> automated underground, with fully-enclosed stations with platform screen

> doors, metro-style. It runs at up to 80 km/h underground. Regardless of the

> metro-like character of the light rail underground, Tel Aviv is building a

> metro system as well, to serve the greater conurbation of Tel Aviv which

> contains over 4 million people. The metro will also have three lines, the

> longest of which will be 85 km, about 20 km longer than the Tallawong to

> Bankstown metro in Sydney. The Green line will be the longest light rail

> line at 39 km, but, like all the light rail lines, is intended for local

> traffic along the route.

>

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO2K159mmD8

>

> Tony P

> On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 00:33:45 UTC+10 TP wrote:

>

>> It's quite normal to use double deck trains in Europe and Israel on what

>> we'd call interurban/intercity long-distance services. This is not like the

>> Sydney suburban system, which is unique.

>>

>> The Israeli railway system serves only a handful of suburban stations in

>> Tel Aviv and Haifa as part of longer journeys, cities that are mainly

>> served internally at present by bus, though there is a funicular subway in

>> Haifa and a metro system is being built in Tel Aviv. In addition, Tel Aviv

>> is building a light rail system and Jerusalem already has light rail.

>> Electrification of Israeli Railways is progressing slowly, so the existing

>> fleet of double deck trains, which are the same push-pull Bombardier type

>> that you see in Germany, but diesel-electric, will eventually develop into

>> a fully electric fleet as the electric network grows, with these new

>> acquisitions.

>>

>> Talking of light rail in Israel, am I the only person who thinks the tram

>> tracks with the third APS rail in George St, Sydney is extremely ugly?

>> Compare it with this photo of Jaffa Street in Jerusalem with overhead wire.

>>

>> Sydney:

>> https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/gd_sight/58045.jpg

>>

>> Jerusalem:

>>

>> http://tourinjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/11311535_128165127521572_1309944600_n.jpg

>>

>> What exactly has been achieved by way of street beautification in Sydney

>> by this enormously expensive and unreliable extravagence?

>>

>> Tony P

>> On Friday, 25 August 2023 at 18:51:52 UTC+10 Greg Sutherland wrote:

>>

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