Re: Sydney's second metro train class, by Siemens
  TP

Dudley, here is a more detailed plan of where the bridges and viaducts are
on the Western Sydney Metro.

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.skyscrapercity.com/attachments/metro-airport-alignment-jpg.4967037/

Tony P

On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 14:44:58 UTC+10 Dudley Horscroft wrote:

> Thanks, Tony P for the info on the Airport line.

>

> Dudley

> On 14/05/2023 8:30 am, TP wrote:

>

> There's not a "change of gauge" issue because services on the different

> metro lines will never be required to through-run onto each other. Avoiding

> line entanglement is part of the whole point of it.

>

> The first line is 1,500 volts DC because it includes two existing sections

> of line that already had DC power. You could argue the decision but perhaps

> they found it cheaper than converting the power supply for the existing

> lines.

>

> Dudley, construction and tunnel boring of the Western Sydney line as

> already underway. The land there is very undulating and rises to the

> airport, so there are tunnels at each end. The rest is on the surface or on

> viaducts.

>

>

> https://www.felix.net/hs-fs/hubfs/Felix%20Project%20News/Content%20images/Project%20alignment%20map%20EIS%20Oct2020%20(1).jpg?width=3000&name=Project%20alignment%20map%20EIS%20Oct2020%20(1).jpg

>

> Tony P

>

> On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 23:00:09 UTC+10 Dudley Horscroft wrote:

>

>> From Google Maps, the route is almost entirely agricultural land, with

>> the occasional hamlet. As such the line, if built, should be at grade

>> except for overpasses of roads. And possibly a very short subway where a

>> hamlet cannot be avoided.

>>

>> So, is it to be economical, with short lengths of elevated tract or

>> expensive, with tunnel throughout. If the latter, I reckon they should

>> wait till they can get the TBMs released from the Snowy 2 debacle.

>>

>> Dudley Horscroft

>> On 13/05/2023 9:52 pm, Robert Taaffe wrote:

>>

>> Are the Airport Metro trains still going to be 25kV? In which case do we

>> never learn the lessons of the gauge debacle?

>>

>> On 13 May 2023, at 9:06 pm, TP histor...@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> https://www.railexpress.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Siemens-Mobility-InfoGraphic-1024x576.png

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>> Tony P

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