Gday All
Is this group TDU or Ferries down under
Im sick of ferries posts as they arnt electric public transport
Mal, its time to act
Cheers, Mick who liked the Steam Ferries
On 20/03/2023 3:52 pm, Tony Galloway wrote:
> When the Emerald breaks down, the real ferry following can pick up the stranded passengers on it.
>
> Tony
>
>> On 20 Mar 2023, at 15:24,peterm...@... http://gmail.com petermudie100@...> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds stupid, stop the in efficent run and run the efficent older boats and get more!!!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 15:16:14 UTC+11bblun...@... http://yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> When the Freshie runs, it is leaves from the opposite side of the
>> wharf at CQ, a couple of minutes after the Emerald. (This is
>> necessary to enable the Emerald to get to Manly, turn around its
>> passengers and depart before the Freshie arrives). It is
>> clearly in view of intending passengers, with those signs clearly
>> visible. The crews also announce that the Freshie is slower.
>>
>> The majority of passengers choose the faster Emerald service, but
>> the STMF tragics have a conspiracy theory that Transdev is
>> deliberately preventing them from catching the Freshie.
>>
>> There is only one wharf normally available at Manly, so both type
>> can't be moored there together.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 02:55:13 pm AEDT, TP
>> histor...@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, if there is an Emerald and a Freshwater at the wharf at the
>> same time, people can choose which one to ride. There is a sign
>> advising that the Freshwater is the slower trip, only to head off
>> complaints later that the passenger didn't realise.
>>
>> Tony P
>>
>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 14:34:02 UTC+11peterm...@...
>> wrote:
>>
>> GAH!!!!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 14:01:34 UTC+11 Tony Galloway wrote:
>>
>> Hey hey, Perrottet
>>
>> How many koalas did you kill today?
>>
>> Just making a gratuitous comment.
>>
>> As for ferry “choice”, what happens?
>>
>> An Emerald and a Freshwater ferry both dock at Manly
>> wharf at the same time, and the commuters get to pick
>> their ride?
>>
>> Jeez, these liberal electorates get it good. Doesn’t mean
>> they’re still going to vote for them though.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>> On 20 Mar 2023, at 12:38, TP
>>> histor...@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course they never mention that the Australian-built
>>> Freshwater Manly ferries had control system problems
>>> that took over twenty years to fully resolve. There were
>>> some spectacular groundings out of that one. Memories
>>> are short, or selective, in politics. Meanwhile, the
>>> travelling public is voting with its feet and
>>> overwhelmingly uses the Emeralds. After all, if you have
>>> a choice between a faster, more frequent public
>>> transport service and slower, less frequent one, which
>>> one do you choose? It's not rocket science.
>>>
>>> Tony P
>>>
>>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 12:20:50 UTC+11 Greg
>>> Sutherland wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-another-steering-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230320-p5ctjb.html
>>>
>>> One of the new Manly ferries has suffered another
>>> steering failure on Sydney Harbour, forcing the
>>> operator to pull the troubled vessel from service
>>> amid ongoing concerns about defects plaguing the
>>> three catamarans purchased to replace larger
>>> Freshwater ferries.
>>>
>>> The failure of the Fairlight’s steering occurred at
>>> about 7.30pm on Sunday evening while the ferry was
>>> sailing from Circular Quay to Manly, and resulted in
>>> it swerving to port, according to multiple sources.
>>> The ferry was carrying about 150 passengers.
>>>
>>> Following the incident, the Chinese-built catamaran
>>> ferry was removed from regular passenger service and
>>> is now docked at the Balmain shipyard.
>>>
>>> The Fairlight ferry has suffered another steering
>>> failure.
>>>
>>> The Fairlight ferry has suffered another steering
>>> failure.Credit:Edwina Pickles
>>>
>>> The latest incident takes thenumber of steering
>>> failures
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.htmlinvolving
>>> the Fairlight to nine since the government-owned
>>> vessel entered service in late 2021. It has sparked
>>> calls for transport authorities to remove all three
>>> of the second-generation Emerald-class ferries from
>>> service.
>>>
>>> The Fairlightlast suffered a steering failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-another-steering-failure-near-sydney-heads-20221120-p5bzop.htmlwhile
>>> carrying passengers near the entrance to Sydney
>>> Harbour in November, less than two months after
>>> asimilar incident
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/manly-ferries-removed-from-service-after-steering-failure-near-cruise-ship-20220926-p5bl6m.htmlforced
>>> ferry operator Transdev to urgently pull the
>>> catamaran and two sister vessels from service.
>>>
>>>
>>> Related Article
>>>
>>> The Fairlight ferry was pulled from service two
>>> weeks ago after suffering another steering failure.
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Public transport
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/topic/sydney-public-transport-62q
>>>
>>>
>>> High number of steering failures involving new
>>> Manly ferries revealed
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.html
>>>
>>> Labor transport spokeswoman Jo Haylen said the
>>> steering failures involving the Fairlight were a
>>> serious risk to passenger safety.
>>>
>>> “It is only thanks to good luck that a passenger or
>>> crew member on one of these ferries has not been
>>> seriously injured, or worse,” she said. “What is it
>>> going to take before action is taken?”
>>>
>>> The three new Manly ferries have been plagued with
>>> defects and steering failures since they entered
>>> service on the busy route in late 2021. The
>>> Fairlight’s sister vessel, the Clontarf, sufferedan
>>> engine failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.htmlduring
>>> regular safety drills last month, requiring the
>>> engine to later be replaced.
>>>
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>>>
>>> The problems have reinforced concerns the new
>>> ferries cannot handle conditions on the
>>> Manly-Circular Quay route nearly as well as
>>> thelarger Freshwater vessels
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/end-of-an-era-last-sailing-set-for-manly-ferry-20211007-p58y0b.htmlthey
>>> are meant to replace. The government plans to retire
>>> two of the four Freshwater ferries this year.
>>>
>>>
>>> Related Article
>>>
>>> The Clontarf is wet docked at the Balmain shipyards
>>> after suffering a catastrophic engine failure.
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Public transport
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/topic/sydney-public-transport-62q
>>>
>>>
>>> ‘There was an almighty noise’: New Manly ferry
>>> suffers catastrophic engine failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.html
>>>
>>> Action for Public Transport spokesman Graeme Taylor
>>> said all three of the new Manly ferries should be
>>> pulled from service until the cause of the latest
>>> steering failure was known, and the problem fixed.
>>>
>>> Transport for NSW has been approached for comment.
>>>
>>> The Maritime Union of Australia, which represents
>>> deck-hands on ferries, said the transport agency
>>> needed to work urgently with Transdev to fix the
>>> problems plaguing the new Manly ferries.
>>>
>>> “They created this mess – they need to now fix it,”
>>> the union’s deputy branch secretary Paul Garrett
>>> said. “It is another reason why ferries should be
>>> built in Australia and why the Freshwater ferries
>>> should be put back on the run.”
>>>
>>> Transport Minister David Elliott, who is quitting
>>> politics after the state election on Saturday, has
>>> also been approached for comment
>>>
>>>
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