Re: Query re Murder she wrote
  Tony Galloway

Speaking of European film locations, the original “The Italian Job” made in 1969, was a shameless product placement for Leyland Minis, but also featured Milan trams, with the scene where the Benny Hill “mad genius” character indulged his, ah, peccadillo by assisting a large lady board a Peter Witt car - through the wrong door.

Tony

> On 20 Mar 2023, at 19:02, TP historyworks@...> wrote:

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> Many of those European films are shot in Prague where the DPP will happily dress up trams to look like a tram from another city. Hungary is another common film setting. After all, all European cities and their trams surely look the same don't they?? The cost of locations is typically the major driver. Too expensive to shoot in France, Germany or Italy nowadays. As soon as the iron curtain fell, the Producers were off eastwards, even before, as early as "Amadeus".

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> Tony P

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> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 18:34:36 UTC+11 Tony Galloway wrote:

> For most film or TV show producers, a tram is a tram, a train is a train, a motorcycle is a motorcycle, no matter how anachronistic or inappropriate, knowing that only the “rivet counters” would notice or care about it. With bikes, often product placement is involved, like with a late model Harley-Davidson in a Raiders of the Lost Ark movie set before WW2.

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> It sounds like they at least found an Italian tram and didn’t trot over to Crich and try passing off some double decker as Genoese.

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> Tony

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> > On 20 Mar 2023, at 18:22, Dudley Horscroft transit...@... <applewebdata://D30337D7-18FC-4234-980E-1B6056D8E9C9>> wrote:

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> > I watched an episode allegedly set in Genoa. Close to the start, there was a street scene with a supposedly Genoa tram in it. This appeared to be of wooden construction, with the framework revealed and the usual outer cladding removed. Looked to me like a Peter Witt from Milan. Had Peter Witts ever operated in Genoa.? Moreover the livery was orange. When I last saw trams in Genoa, they were flush sided, the sort of semi stream lined tram favoured in the 1940s, and finished in a two tone green livery - and eventually scrapped when the system later closed. Towards the end there was another street scene, with what appeared to be similar to a Duewag motor plus trailer set from the 1950s, again finished in an orange livery.

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> > Any thoughts on this?

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> > Regards

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> > Dudley Horscroft

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