Yes, if there is an Emerald and a Freshwater at the wharf at the same time,
people can choose which one to ride. There is a sign advising that the
Freshwater is the slower trip, only to head off complaints later that the
passenger didn't realise.
Tony P
On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 14:34:02 UTC+11peterm...@... wrote:
> GAH!!!!
>
>
> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 14:01:34 UTC+11 Tony Galloway wrote:
>
>> Hey hey, Perrottet
>>
>> How many koalas did you kill today?
>>
>> Just making a gratuitous comment.
>>
>> As for ferry “choice”, what happens?
>>
>> An Emerald and a Freshwater ferry both dock at Manly wharf at the same
>> time, and the commuters get to pick their ride?
>>
>> Jeez, these liberal electorates get it good. Doesn’t mean they’re still
>> going to vote for them though.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 20 Mar 2023, at 12:38, TP histor...@...> wrote:
>>
>> Of course they never mention that the Australian-built Freshwater Manly
>> ferries had control system problems that took over twenty years to fully
>> resolve. There were some spectacular groundings out of that one. Memories
>> are short, or selective, in politics. Meanwhile, the travelling public is
>> voting with its feet and overwhelmingly uses the Emeralds. After all, if
>> you have a choice between a faster, more frequent public transport service
>> and slower, less frequent one, which one do you choose? It's not rocket
>> science.
>>
>> Tony P
>>
>> On Monday, 20 March 2023 at 12:20:50 UTC+11 Greg Sutherland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-another-steering-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230320-p5ctjb.html
>>>
>>> One of the new Manly ferries has suffered another steering failure on
>>> Sydney Harbour, forcing the operator to pull the troubled vessel from
>>> service amid ongoing concerns about defects plaguing the three catamarans
>>> purchased to replace larger Freshwater ferries.
>>>
>>> The failure of the Fairlight’s steering occurred at about 7.30pm on
>>> Sunday evening while the ferry was sailing from Circular Quay to Manly, and
>>> resulted in it swerving to port, according to multiple sources. The ferry
>>> was carrying about 150 passengers.
>>>
>>> Following the incident, the Chinese-built catamaran ferry was removed
>>> from regular passenger service and is now docked at the Balmain shipyard.
>>> [image: The Fairlight ferry has suffered another steering failure.]
>>>
>>> The Fairlight ferry has suffered another steering failure.Credit:Edwina
>>> Pickles
>>>
>>> The latest incident takes the number of steering failures
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.html
>>> involving the Fairlight to nine since the government-owned vessel
>>> entered service in late 2021. It has sparked calls for transport
>>> authorities to remove all three of the second-generation Emerald-class
>>> ferries from service.
>>>
>>> The Fairlight last suffered a steering failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-another-steering-failure-near-sydney-heads-20221120-p5bzop.html
>>> while carrying passengers near the entrance to Sydney Harbour in
>>> November, less than two months after a similar incident
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/manly-ferries-removed-from-service-after-steering-failure-near-cruise-ship-20220926-p5bl6m.html
>>> forced ferry operator Transdev to urgently pull the catamaran and two
>>> sister vessels from service.
>>> Related Article
>>> [image: The Fairlight ferry was pulled from service two weeks ago after
>>> suffering another steering failure.]
>>>
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.html
>>> Public transport
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/topic/sydney-public-transport-62q
>>> High number of steering failures involving new Manly ferries revealed
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/high-number-of-steering-failures-involving-new-manly-ferries-revealed-20221202-p5c35r.html
>>>
>>> Labor transport spokeswoman Jo Haylen said the steering failures
>>> involving the Fairlight were a serious risk to passenger safety.
>>>
>>> “It is only thanks to good luck that a passenger or crew member on one
>>> of these ferries has not been seriously injured, or worse,” she said. “What
>>> is it going to take before action is taken?”
>>>
>>> The three new Manly ferries have been plagued with defects and steering
>>> failures since they entered service on the busy route in late 2021. The
>>> Fairlight’s sister vessel, the Clontarf, suffered an engine failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.html
>>> during regular safety drills last month, requiring the engine to later
>>> be replaced.
>>> Advertisement
>>>
>>> The problems have reinforced concerns the new ferries cannot handle
>>> conditions on the Manly-Circular Quay route nearly as well as the larger
>>> Freshwater vessels
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/end-of-an-era-last-sailing-set-for-manly-ferry-20211007-p58y0b.html
>>> they are meant to replace. The government plans to retire two of the
>>> four Freshwater ferries this year.
>>> Related Article
>>> [image: The Clontarf is wet docked at the Balmain shipyards after
>>> suffering a catastrophic engine failure.]
>>>
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.html
>>> Public transport
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/topic/sydney-public-transport-62q
>>> ‘There was an almighty noise’: New Manly ferry suffers catastrophic
>>> engine failure
>>> https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/new-manly-ferry-suffers-catastrophic-engine-failure-on-sydney-harbour-20230207-p5cikt.html
>>>
>>> Action for Public Transport spokesman Graeme Taylor said all three of
>>> the new Manly ferries should be pulled from service until the cause of the
>>> latest steering failure was known, and the problem fixed.
>>>
>>> Transport for NSW has been approached for comment.
>>>
>>> The Maritime Union of Australia, which represents deck-hands on ferries,
>>> said the transport agency needed to work urgently with Transdev to fix the
>>> problems plaguing the new Manly ferries.
>>>
>>> “They created this mess – they need to now fix it,” the union’s deputy
>>> branch secretary Paul Garrett said. “It is another reason why ferries
>>> should be built in Australia and why the Freshwater ferries should be put
>>> back on the run.”
>>> Transport Minister David Elliott, who is quitting politics after the
>>> state election on Saturday, has also been approached for comment
>>>
>>>
>>>
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