Re: Re: Adelaide
  Mark Skinner

I got that. I was rather referring to his second comment about the curve at
the intersection of King William and North Terrace, and the implication
that it isn't possible these days. Part of the reason for inclusion of the
Festival Plaza is of course that there's also stuff going on there during
the Fringe.

Mark Skinner

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023, 5:24 pm Malcolm Rowe, mal.rowe@...> wrote:

> Graham’s suggestion does not require new trams or new curves. He is

> suggesting replacing the King William St leg with some distance west along

> North Terrace.

> That would of course remove close service to the Festival Centre, but

> would link to the Entertainment Centre.

>

> From Mal in transit

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> Hi Graham,

>

> While Premiers Rann and Weatherill were infrastructure builders, Premiers

> Marshall and Malinauskas are not. And when the Premiers don't want

> something, consultants rarely come up with reports that say anything the

> Premiers won't like.

>

> In this case, I can think of at least two options that would do the job,

> and I am certain that if the Premier wanted them to, they'd suddenly

> "discover" a new solution.

>

> The easiest solution is to buy new trams that can negotiate a slightly

> smaller diameter curve. Flexities would do. And since new trams would be

> required for a loop, it's not an extra cost at all. The only penalty is

> that the Citadis trams would be barred from that route. That simply would

> not matter if the Premier wanted it.

>

> Mark Skinner

>

>

>

> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023, 10:59 am Graham Jaunay, graham@...> wrote:

>

> I have been advocating the Adelaide Loop concern for some time. Whilst

> this version is ideal for the current festival it does leave out the west

> end - an easy fix by just adding in North Tce west and leaving out the

> short length on King Wm Road. Altho if we had retained the former track

> layout at Nth Tce/King Wm St removed in the 1950s we would have had even

> more scope for a range of variations! Somehow the early C21st track

> designers were unable to repeat what their counterparts had achieved 100

> years earlier!!!!

>

> Graham

>

> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 8:12:38 AM UTC+10:30 Malcolm Rowe wrote:

>

> Adelaide has turned on some fine world music this weekend and some

> perfect weather.

> The trams have been busy delivering passengers to WOMAD and the Fringe

> Festival events.

> My phone shot last night caught 209 at the University stop in North

> Terrace, while the timetable shows that extra ADLOOP service that provides

> CBD mobility at this busy time of year.

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