Yes, well that's been a creeping disease across all sectors of public
transport.
Tony P
On Friday, 10 March 2023 at 09:34:08 UTC+11 Tony Galloway wrote:
> The real reason the trains stopped is because all the worthless
> managerialists would have been exposed as utterly redundant bludging,
> overpaid leeches with the trains running normally, on signal indications,
> without their pointless, useless and obnoxious micromanagement.
>
> There was nothing wrong with the signals or safeworking, no risk to the
> public, just a risk to the jobs of deadshits in suits employed to make the
> working lives of real, actual, productive workers more miserable than they
> are already.
>
> Tony
>
> On 10 Mar 2023, at 04:37, Stuart Keenan stuart....@...> wrote:
>
> "... a failure in a piece of technology..."
>
> Yeah, technology is great - when it works....
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 15:02 Tony Galloway a...@...> wrote:
>
>> So David Fat Controller Idiot thought “industrial sabotage” might have
>> been responsible - what an odious and despicable grub :
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/09/sydney-trains-running-uber-refunds-surge-pricing-after-nsw-train-rail-network-down
>>
>> Sydney train commuters to get free transport day after rail network
>> outage causes chaosCybersecurity attack ruled out as rail shutdown puts
>> pressure on NSW government before state election
>> Natasha May
>> [image: Commuters waiting for light rail services after Town Hall station
>> was closed]
>> Commuters wait for light rail services after Sydney’s train network was
>> shut down. Those who turned to Uber will have surge pricing refunded. Photograph:
>> Dan Himbrechts/AAP
>>
>> The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/dominic-perrottet, has
>> apologised for a peak-hour meltdown of the Sydney rail network less than
>> three weeks out from the state election.
>>
>> The shutdown on Wednesday afternoon
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/08/sydney-train-network-trains-down-rail-delays-halt-communications-fault-update
>> left tens of thousands of passengers stranded, with Uber fares spiking
>> to hundreds of dollars in surge-price fees.
>>
>> Amid a backlash on Thursday, Uber promised to reimburse customers who
>> were charged the surge prices.
>>
>> Perrottet apologised for the system shutdown and said he had ordered a
>> fare-free day be instituted as a result. “These challenges occur from time
>> to time,” he said.
>>
>> “What’s most important is when they happen they get fixed immediately.
>> I’ve been assured by the secretary of the Department of Transport
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/transport that this won’t
>> happen again.”
>>
>> Immediately after the network shutdown the retiring transport minister,
>> David Elliott, said it was most likely the result of a “glitch” but also
>> suggested it may have been caused by “foreign interference or industrial
>> sabotage”.
>>
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>> Those concerns were dismissed by transport chiefs on Thursday, who blamed
>> a fault in the network’s communications.
>>
>> Transport for NSW said the network had been shut down for safety reasons
>> after the digital train radio system on the network failed about 2.45pm.
>> The system was back online within about an hour but delays ensued into the
>> peak period.
>>
>> The head of Sydney https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/sydney Trains,
>> Matt Longland, said “based on the detailed review overnight” the delays had
>> been caused by a failure in a piece of technology and were not “related to
>> any suspected issue in terms of any cyber activity or any anything of that
>> nature”.
>>
>> The failure came in the network’s emergency system, known as Frequentis,
>> which Longland said was managed by a third-party “technology partner”.
>>
>> A backup system supposed to kick in in the event of a fault had not
>> worked, he said, something Sydney Trains was still investigating. Asked on
>> Thursday whether the system should be run in-house, he said the agency made
>> case-by-case decisions.
>>
>> “The decision that we made at the time in 2016 was really about buying a
>> proven system that operates internationally,” he said.
>>
>> “That’s the system that we’ve got. It has been operating very reliably
>> but certainly it’s a case-by-case basis in terms of technology.”
>>
>> The shutdown – that followed months of chaos on the network last year,
>> stemming from an industrial dispute with the state rail union – was seized
>> on by the NSW Labor party, with the shadow transport minister, Jo Haylen,
>> saying the government had failed to manage the city’s rail network.
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>> “The lights were out across Sydney trains but they were also out in the
>> retiring transport minister’s office,” she said.
>>
>> The Greens MP Sue Higginson encouraged those stuck in Sydney’s “train
>> chaos” to send their rideshare or taxi receipts to the premier, Dominic
>> Perrottet, and the NSW Liberals.
>>
>> Elliott said the glitch could have occurred under any government. “The
>> comments made by the Greens and Labor MPs simply reinforce the point that
>> both are desperately trying to score political points from a highly
>> operational transport issue,” Elliott said.
>>
>> “The fact is that this operational issue (glitch in router/modem) could
>> and would have occurred under any minister or government. Unless of course
>> the Greens and Labor parties know something we all don’t.”
>>
>> Uber said it had not been alerted by Transport for NSW about the outage,
>> and people who were charged above the surge cap would be refunded within 48
>> hours.
>>
>> “While in the past we have been alerted by Transport for NSW when there
>> were Sydney-wide transport issues, in this instance we had no warning that
>> there would be such a complete outage on the NSW trains network,” the
>> spokesperson said.
>>
>> Uber said that as soon as it became aware of the situation, the company
>> had “immediately” lowered the surge and communicated with driver-partners
>> encouraging them to come online.
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