Re: Re: Australian public transport fleet sizes
  TP

Thank you. So I've come full circle back to 510 Melbourne trams. I should
have trusted my original instinct! As it lies now:

*Trams*

Melbourne 510 (126x30 metre, 204x24 metre, 180x15 metre)
Greater Sydney (including Newcastle) 48 (30x60 metre, 18x30 metre)
Adelaide 24 (24x30 metre)
Greater Brisbane (Gold Coast) 18 (18x45 metre)
Canberra 14 (14x30 metre)

The reference to 60 metre consists in Sydney is correct. The deployment of
individual cars to L1 is temporary and will definitely end when the next
batch of CAFs is delivered.

Tony P

On Monday, 6 February 2023 at 21:23:47 UTC+11 steventrams53 wrote:

> W8 10/ Z3 101 / A 69 / B2 130 /C1 36 / C2 5 / D1 38 / D2 21 / E 100

> total 510 trams Melbourne fleet

>

> On Mon, 6 Feb. 2023, 8:31 pm 'bblun...@yahoo.com' via TramsDownUnder, <

>tramsdo...@...> wrote:

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>> Each tram has its own number (1-60) and can operate independently, but

>> they are semi- permanently coupled in pairs for operation on the CSE line.

>>

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>> On Monday, February 6, 2023, 20:27, Steven Altham steven...@...>

>> wrote:

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>> I would have thought 30 coupled citadis trams would be counted a 60 trams

>> for Sydney they are not permanently coupled????

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>> On Mon, 6 Feb. 2023, 3:18 pm Dale Budd, dale...@...> wrote:

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>> And they seem to have invented a 13th W8. Have they done another

>> conversion on the quiet?

>>

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>>

>> Dale Budd

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>> *From:*tramsdo...@... [mailto:tramsdo...@googlegroups.com] *On

>> Behalf Of *Jeremy Wainwright

>> *Sent:* Monday, 6 February 2023 1:57 PM

>> *To:*tramsdo...@...

>> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Australian public transport fleet

>> sizes

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>>

>>

>> Can we trust YT to count trams? They don't seem to be able to count

>> wheels under the D2 class!

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>>

>> JWW

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>> *From:*tramsdo...@... tramsdo...@...> on

>> behalf of Mal Rowe mal....@...>

>> *Sent:* Monday, 6 February 2023 12:44 AM

>> *To:*tramsdo...@... tramsdo...@...>

>> *Subject:* Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Australian public transport fleet

>> sizes

>>

>>

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>> On 06/02/2023 11:01, TP wrote:

>> > Come on Melbournians, 'fess up. How many trams do you have? (Potemkin

>> > trams now allowed.)

>> >

>> The official Yarra Trams figures are on their website at:

>>

>> https://kor01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyarratrams.com.au%2Four-fleet-today&data=05%7C01%7C%7C5da7bf04abfa48dcd71308db07db4b6b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638112410715670214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LlKv43ejynRg7%2BOg8KMxbL5xDDMdu1DamSs8%2B%2B5%2FXl8%3D&reserved=0

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>> As you will see, they claim 520 at the top of the page.

>>

>> If you add up the numbers by class it comes to 526.

>>

>> There are now only 101 Z3s in service - not 114 as listed. 9 of them

>> are recent withdrawals of non-refurbished Z3s which have gone to Newport.

>>

>> For those interested in detail, the Z3s at Newport are: 133, 120, 136,

>> 137, 138, 144, 190, 197 and 208.

>>

>> So choose your answer, but I would go for around 510.

>>

>> Mal Rowe -

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