Re: Secret report reveals $1 billion-plus cost blowout in bungled NSW trains project
  TP

Yes, I've read the objectives of the group a number of times in order to
gain clarity, but there's quite a bit of looseness in them. The words
"urban transport" can potentially allow discussion way beyond what was
intended. "Trolleys" is an old-fashioned term that doesn't cover subsequent
developments.

Tony P

On Monday, 6 February 2023 at 12:36:30 UTC+11heg...@... wrote:

> From the list homepage https://tdu.to:

>

> "Trams DownUnder is a Google Groups discussion group/mailing list

> pertaining to trams, trolleys, light rail and urban transport in Australia

> and New Zealand. Included are such locations as Melbourne, Bendigo,

> Ballarat, Sydney, Christchurch and many more. Discussion of historical

> aspects of present and past operations is especially encouraged. Also

> included: Australian trams in the United States and elsewhere."

>

> I take it that emphasis on the political background is out of place (as is

> discussion of internal-combustion-powered bus operations per se) but

> cursory mention of those factors as context for the main focus is OK. For

> example, someone might offer a summary of pre-electric services on the

> Glenelg line, to compare what was offered and the level of patronage; but

> not go into detailed discussion of locomotives and rolling stock.

>

> That's how I see it. I hope I'm at least broadly right.

>

> Hal Cain

>

>

>

> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:59 AM TP histor...@...> wrote:

>

>> Still not really relevant. A completely different, unrelated project.

>>

>> Tony P

>>

>> On Monday, 6 February 2023 at 11:03:07 UTC+11mat...@...

>> wrote:

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>>> On 6/2/23 10:55, TP wrote:

>>> > Is this part of the core business of this forum or are we using the

>>> > "pantograph loophole"?

>>> >

>>> This is the same transport authority that purchased trams unsuited to

>>> the job and a traction power system for said trams that is tried to a

>>> single manufacturer.

>>>

>>>

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