Looks like we have not heard the end of this fiasco.
There was a par on today's ABC Sydney's 7;00 am new bulletin.
The 'flooded points' and the associated bus failure (only 6 artics) were mentioned.
Greg
On 21/01/2023 2:37 pm, Mark Skinner wrote:
> It's almost as if, from start to finish with light rail, that TfNSW has sabotaged the government. The exorbitant cost and outrageous project time in which almost every decision cost more or degraded performance is now compounded by this series of events. I do accept that big projects will always have ups and downs. However, when a project is consistently underperforming is not the time for shrugging shoulders and bulling ahead.
>
> Of course, one of the reasons for representative government is to curtail out-of-control feral bureaucracy. So, obviously the Government has to take responsibility too. A few top heads rolling in 2017 AND selection of competent replacements could have changed history.
>
>
> Mark Skinner
>
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, 11:13 am TP, historyworks@...> wrote:
>
> 702
>
> At that time of night, regular route trams are passing through
> Moore Park every five minutes, giving a capacity of about 5,400
> persons per hour per direction. Insertion of LX trams in between
> should double that capacity, assuming they can undertake the
> operation with Swiss watch-like discipline. Addition of the five
> artic buses should provide another 1,000-1,500 pphpd on top of
> that, let's say about 12,000 pphpd. Then the trams fell over,
> leaving the artics to do the job. The stadium crowd size was
> 30,000. The balance is supposed to be picked up by private cars
> and walking. Not brilliant, considering the capacity of the former
> tram system to move 60,000 per hour at that venue.
>
> In Sydney, Olympic Park will be perfect once the metro opens
> through there. SUburban event trains manage until then. Other
> states seem to do a lot better than Moore Park. Perth's new Optus
> Stadium has been designed to be served by public transport only
> and trains and buses can lift an entire capacity crowd of 60,000
> on their own.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Friday, 20 January 2023 at 21:35:46 UTC+11 TP wrote:
>
> After the trams finished, Moore Park events were served by
> buses and there were never enough of them. Exiting the venue
> onto an abundance of trams that swallowed the crowds up was
> replaced by waiting for occasional buses and then running
> frantically to get on one in case it was the only one (you
> never knew in those days before transport apps on phones).
> Illustrated in the attached Fairfax photo (which I've titled
> "Fall of the Roman Empire")..
>
> At the Elton Johns concert, the trams barely did the job of
> that single bus. There were six artic buses supplied for the
> event by Transit systems and they were the lifesavers.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Friday, 20 January 2023 at 19:09:35 UTC+11
> gol8...@... wrote:
>
> I think that I see where you gents are going wrong.
> Melbourne has those funny old trams whereas Sydney has a
> "Modern light fail, er, rail"system.
>
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> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Light rail fails in the hour
> of need
>
> On 20/1/23 15:52, Mark Skinner wrote:
> > So...what happens if a driver selects the wrong road by
> mistake?
> > Surely, they can get out and change the points manually?
> >
> In Sydney drivers do not select the points, the 'traffic
> computer'
> (AVLS) does. It also controls the destination screens.
>
> If the AVLS is down or not communicating with the master
> control
> computer, the OCC will direct the drivers to select points
> using the
> direction selection buttons on the console. A selector
> switch to be
> turned from auto to manual before those buttons work. The
> locations of
> the beacons are marked track side.
>
> Basically it appears the function of an LRV driver to read
> the AVLS
> screen and follow it's directions. The only autonomy is
> 'don't run over
> pedestrians'. Every thing else is regulated by computers.
>
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