Re: [LRPPro] Snail rail: why are trams in Australian cities running slower than they were 100 years ago?
  Matthew Geier

It's not surprising that the L2/L3 are slow given almost the entire length
of George Street is now pedestrianised and subject to a 20km/hr speed
limit. The southern Brickfield Hill section used to be 40km/hr until the
city council pedestrianised that too - so another km of the track got
snail's pace speed limited.
TonyP will mention the acceleration of his favourite European system as an
example that top speed doesn't matter. Still, we are limited here too - all
stops on all 3 lines are 20kmn approach and departure limited. No flying in
under hard braking and taking off at maximum power.
And then there is the traffic light priority or lack thereof. It's gotten a
bit better since the L2 opened, but it looks like they have to fight for
every intersection. with the traffic planners still prioritizing the number
of vehicles through the intersections not the number of people. So our big
monster coupled sets count as ONE vehicle in their throughput calculations
it seems.
Even down AZAC Pde watch the traffic lights - the shared bus/tram corridor
- the bus light goes green but the tram light stays red - the tram light
doesn't clear until it sees the beacon from the approaching tram - so the
trams slow approaching all the intersections to incase the lights don't
clear before they reach them - even though they can see the bus light IS
clear.


On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 10:30, Avrom Shtern adirondacksub@...> wrote:

> Very interesting article.

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> Thanks for sharing Greg.

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> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 5:27 p.m. Greg Sutherland <

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>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jan/22/snail-rail-why-are-trams-in-australian-cities-running-slower-than-they-were-100-years-ago?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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