It's almost as if, from start to finish with light rail, that TfNSW has
sabotaged the government. The exorbitant cost and outrageous project time
in which almost every decision cost more or degraded performance is now
compounded by this series of events. I do accept that big projects will
always have ups and downs. However, when a project is consistently
underperforming is not the time for shrugging shoulders and bulling ahead.
Of course, one of the reasons for representative government is to curtail
out-of-control feral bureaucracy. So, obviously the Government has to take
responsibility too. A few top heads rolling in 2017 AND selection of
competent replacements could have changed history.
Mark Skinner
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, 11:13 am TP, historyworks@...> wrote:
> I'm hearing now that TfNSW didn't bother approving Transdev to insert
> additional LX trams in between the regular trams passing through Moore Park
> during the event. LX is the route number given to special event trams that
> are interspersed between the regular L2 and L3 trams between Central and
> Moore Park/Randwick Racecourse during events.
>
> At that time of night, regular route trams are passing through Moore Park
> every five minutes, giving a capacity of about 5,400 persons per hour per
> direction. Insertion of LX trams in between should double that capacity,
> assuming they can undertake the operation with Swiss watch-like discipline.
> Addition of the five artic buses should provide another 1,000-1,500 pphpd
> on top of that, let's say about 12,000 pphpd. Then the trams fell over,
> leaving the artics to do the job. The stadium crowd size was 30,000. The
> balance is supposed to be picked up by private cars and walking. Not
> brilliant, considering the capacity of the former tram system to move
> 60,000 per hour at that venue.
>
> In Sydney, Olympic Park will be perfect once the metro opens through
> there. SUburban event trains manage until then. Other states seem to do a
> lot better than Moore Park. Perth's new Optus Stadium has been designed to
> be served by public transport only and trains and buses can lift an entire
> capacity crowd of 60,000 on their own.
>
> Tony P
>
> On Friday, 20 January 2023 at 21:35:46 UTC+11 TP wrote:
>
>> After the trams finished, Moore Park events were served by buses and
>> there were never enough of them. Exiting the venue onto an abundance of
>> trams that swallowed the crowds up was replaced by waiting for occasional
>> buses and then running frantically to get on one in case it was the only
>> one (you never knew in those days before transport apps on phones).
>> Illustrated in the attached Fairfax photo (which I've titled "Fall of the
>> Roman Empire")..
>>
>> At the Elton Johns concert, the trams barely did the job of that single
>> bus. There were six artic buses supplied for the event by Transit systems
>> and they were the lifesavers.
>>
>> Tony P
>>
>> On Friday, 20 January 2023 at 19:09:35 UTC+11gol8...@...
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that I see where you gents are going wrong. Melbourne has those
>>> funny old trams whereas Sydney has a "Modern light fail, er, rail"system.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:tramsdo...@... [mailto:tramsdo...@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Matthew Geier
>>> Sent: Friday, 20 January 2023 4:36 PM
>>> To:tramsdo...@...
>>> Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Light rail fails in the hour of need
>>>
>>> On 20/1/23 15:52, Mark Skinner wrote:
>>> > So...what happens if a driver selects the wrong road by mistake?
>>> > Surely, they can get out and change the points manually?
>>> >
>>> In Sydney drivers do not select the points, the 'traffic computer'
>>> (AVLS) does. It also controls the destination screens.
>>>
>>> If the AVLS is down or not communicating with the master control
>>> computer, the OCC will direct the drivers to select points using the
>>> direction selection buttons on the console. A selector switch to be
>>> turned from auto to manual before those buttons work. The locations of
>>> the beacons are marked track side.
>>>
>>> Basically it appears the function of an LRV driver to read the AVLS
>>> screen and follow it's directions. The only autonomy is 'don't run over
>>> pedestrians'. Every thing else is regulated by computers.
>>>
>>>
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