Re: Sydney train passenger awarded $1.1 million damages for injuries
  TP

The position with legal liability in such a case nowadays is that the
operator (or the operator's staff member/s) is at fault, regardless of the
actions of the passenger. We can no longer use the justification that the
passenger should have been more careful. The system has to be designed and
managed so that even a careless user is safe. What I find surprising is
that we are told that our commuter trains need guards to be safe, yet here
we have both a guard and a station dispatcher who failed to observe what
was happening on a virtually straight platform. All passenger railways,
except fully automated metros which have an exceptional safety record, are
substandard by modern safety standards, but it'll take a very long time to
upgrade them all with more automation, remote sensing and monitoring and
platform screen doors to minimise the risk of human fallibility, both among
users and staff.

Wondering if there are instances of dragged passengers in Melbourne,
Adelaide and Perth where there are no guards and afaik no station
dispatchers?

Tony P

On Sunday, 25 September 2022 at 18:13:26 UTC+10stuart....@... wrote:

> That article is quite irritating. Sydney Trains was right to challenge

> that claim, they've spent years and how many $$$$ trying to educate the

> masses to "Stand clear doors closing". What else do they need to do?

>

> From the earliest days of automatic door operation, there's been a clearly

> audible "hiss" of compressed air indicating door closure is imminent. In

> more recent years we've had train guards laboriously intoning the above

> words before the computer generated equivalent was installed along with

> tones or chimes, and this in addition to the time-honored practice of the

> guard blowing his/her whistle.

>

> The article is interesting in that the CCTV image shown to the court

> clearly showed the lady close to the edge of the platform with her bag

> stuck in the doors. I'm not a betting man but if I was I'd wager that

> footage was only available for later viewing by investing personnel and not

> available at the time of the incident by station and train staff. The

> incident wouldn't have happened if it was, nor would it have happened if

> the lady had stood clear of the closing doors.

>

> Stuart

>

>

> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022, 21:59 TP histor...@...> wrote:

>

>> The woman was about to board the train at Auburn when the guard closed

>> the door on her, signalled the all clear together with station staff and

>> the driver departed, dragging her between the platform and train, seriously

>> injuring her.

>>

>>

>> https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/sydney-woman-awarded-11m-after-falling-between-train-and-platform/news-story/a56cbc3a4d5f4575332b11a78e64b31a

>>

>> Tony P

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