Re: Economics of electric buses
  Matthew Geier

The TVR vehicles don't have ramps, the driver might have something stashed
in his cab, but that won't help with the 'surface' stops. I assume their
new Hess bi-artics will have a ramp system built in. The TVRs wouldn't have
built equipment on the assumption that the vehicle would be accurately
guided into platforms. The suspension does drop to line the floor with the
doors. The entire 3-segment vehicle drops several cms as the doors open and
lifts again as they close.

I also note that many of the TVRs have scrape marks down the door side.
Looks like the wheel covers flap about a bit and brush up against the
platform.

Some of the diesel buses have wheel hub covers which makes them look more
like trams. Wheel covers seem relatively popular on newer French buses.


On Tue, 20 Sept 2022 at 05:38, TP historyworks@...> wrote:

> Presumably they're equipped with wheelchair ramps, the most common method

> of stepless access in Europe.

>

> That apparent slackness in the wires is more down to a telephoto effect.

> They don't look like that side-on.

>

> Tony P

>

> On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 12:50:17 UTC+10

>mat...@... wrote:

>

>> Can't tension pole compatible overhead with weights. It's probably tight

>> as a piano string in the middle of winter.

>>

>> Nancy is really a guided trolleybus despite being referred to as a tram.

>> Not all the route is guided, only 60% according to the Wikipedia entry.

>>

>> At the exit of one of the termini, they appear to have removed a section

>> of guide rail at some point. From the end of the rail, there is a clear set

>> of marks in the road showing someone drove off the end of the rail with the

>> guide wheels still down and then veered towards the footpath. I haven't got

>> a good look at the other transition points, I expect there will be

>> multiple sets of marks in the road...

>>

>> One really noticeable thing was when running as a bus, even with the

>> 'Kassel Curb', the gap between the vehicle and the platform was large. A

>> wheelchair user would need a bridge plate. At the guided stops the gap was

>> modern tram-like, with a small gap.

>> Several stops had no platform at all and no kerb on the street. Step down

>> to road level.

>>

>>

>>

>> On Tue, 20 Sept 2022 at 01:39, Jeremy Wainwright jew...@...>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Amazingly slack OHL!

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>>

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