Are we able to compare like for like though?
The G class contract price almost certainly includes the new depot and 20
years of maintenance. There will be a premium for local manufacturers and
yes it's not fair that the PT budget cops that cost, but the headline cost
probably includes much more than the cost of the actual vehicle making
direct comparisons difficult. And keeping those workers employed building
them is probably cheaper than throwing them all on social security
(although that comes out of a different pot of money). Although ultimately
as a taxpayer, I pay either way.
Mal has pointed out in the past that the G class contract includes handing
over proprietary code and tools to the onboard computer systems to PTV. How
much did Bombardlier jack up the price for that 'option'?
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 10:34, TP historyworks@...> wrote:
> This month's TAUT has an item that throws some rare insight into the basic
> cost of a tram. Pilsen is ordering a new fleet of Skoda 40Ts, which is a 30
> metre design almost identical to the Melbourne E class. The price has
> apparently risen 23% because of the current economic situation in Europe -
> to $AUD 4 million per car. The discrepancy between this and the $10 million
> label on a 24 metre G class car sort of puts it into perspective. I agree
> about encouraging local manufacturing, but I have a problem with the extra
> cost coming out of the public transport budget because it means you get
> less than half as many trams for the money at a time when you desperately
> need to replace old trams and/or increase the fleet - or less of some other
> urgent public transport need.
>
> https://zdopravy.cz/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Tram_Plzen_3.jpg
>
> Tony P
>
> On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 20:50:21 UTC+10 Mick Duncan wrote:
>
>> Good one,Greg
>>
>> Cheers, Mick
>>
>>
>> On 8/08/2022 4:37 pm, Gregory Robinson wrote:
>>
>> Yarra Trams got rid of route 69 so I guess F class would be out of the
>> question.
>> Adelaide had their F type.
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> On Monday, 8 Aug, 2022 At 10:25 AM, TPhistor...@...> wrote:
>>
>> When this thread started we didn't know what class the new trams were
>> going to be, so we speculated that it would be F. Subsequently it was
>> announced that they would be G class.
>>
>> Tony P
>> (tripped up by the thread title himself)
>>
>> On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 09:30:14 UTC+10 trams4me wrote:
>>
>>> Was the F class designation for the new trams ever an official "thing"
>>> or merely a gunzel affectation?
>>>
>>> All the official documentation refers to "G" class, thus named as "G" is
>>> the seventh letter of the alphabet, the tram is seventh generation and thus
>>> their numbers will be 7001 - 71xx.
>>>
>>> Yuri.
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